Talk:After Last Night

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Hi MarioSoulTruthFan, and thanks for your work on this article. It's not something I wanted to poke at with my GOCE hat on, but I worry there's too much bleed-through between the Composition and Critical reception sections. I'd suggest moving any attributed opinion to the reception section. There are also some unattributed quotations in Composition that should be attributed per WP:INTEXT. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:01, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the GOCE, I'm really grateful. I will try to work on that. I usually have opinions on the critical, while the description of the song stays in the composition. Cheers, MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 18:18, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:After Last Night/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 07:37, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section):

   b. (citations to reliable sources):

   c. (OR):

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   b. (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

I will crack on with this right away! --K. Peake 07:37, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• WP:OVERLINK of D'Mile under producer(s) since I think he can be recognized from his name in songwriter(s)
• Mention in the opening sentence that it is from their debut studio album
• "It was solely released as an urban contemporary radio single" → "It was released to urban adult contemporary radio as the fifth single from the album" with the wikilink and moving the date with labels to the end
• Place the writing sentence as the second one of the first para, then production and followed by release
• ""After Last Night" was written by" → "The song was written by" and shouldn't you use .Paak's stage name in prose since he is a main subject?
• "Jeremy Reeves and Ray Charles McCollough II." → "Jeremy Reeves, and Ray Charles McCollough II."
• "Reeves and McCollough II," → "Reeves, and McCollough II,"
• ""After Last Night" is a" → "It is a"

 Not done The sentence should start with the name of the song

• Pipe funk to Funk music
• "The track received positive reviews" → ""After Last Night" received positive reviews"

see above

• Either use the track or the song, not both. --K. Peake 07:46, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

• Fixed. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 08:06, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

• "who noted the track's sexiness" → "who noted the sexiness"
• "praised Thundercat and Collins's appearance." → "praised Thundercat and Collins's appearances."
• "on Billboard's Hot 100 and 17" → "on the US Billboard Hot 100 and number 17"
• Pipe Billboard to Billboard (magazine)
• "this led the album to become" → "this led An Evening with Silk Sonic to become"
• Mention the release year of Toni Braxton's self-titled album
• "also sang "After Last Night"" → "also sang the song" and this is fine being in the lead because there's no promotion section possible as far as I'm aware

 Done

Background and release

• This section is severely lacking in background; you can easily add info about how the members of Silk Sonic became involved with each other
• "He furthered, "everything" → "He furthered that "everything"

 Done

Production

• If the above section is not expanded to more than one para, merge this with it as the second para and retitle to Background and production

• How do you want me to proceed with it after adding more info? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 21:02, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

• Remove wikilink on Thundercat
• "Jeremy Reeves and Ray McCullough II." → "Jeremy Reeves, and Ray McCullough II."
• "D'Mile and the latter four" → "D'Mile, and the latter four"
• "played guitar while D'Mile also played guitar, piano and" → "played guitar, while D'Mile also played the instrument, piano, and"
• Remove wikilink on Bootsy Collins
• "the viola and Ron Kerber" → "the viola, and Ron Kerber" with the wikilink
• Wikilink flute
• "Tess Varley and Chris Jusell played" → "Tess Varley, and Chris Jusell played"
• Pipe Cincinnati, Ohio to Cincinnati
• "in Virginia Beach. John Hanes" → "in Virginia Beach, while John Hanes"

 Done

Composition

• Audio sample looks good!
• "where Sonic sing a" → "where Silk Sonic sing a" since this is not the surname, also pipe chorus to Refrain
• "neo soul and" → "neo soul, and" plus shouldn't you add slow jam per AllMusic?
• "and as she talks Thundercat is" → "and as she talks, Thundercat is"
• Italicise ooos
• "singing simultaneously about" → "both singing about" to be less confusing
• "and who is able to make a" → "and able to make a"
• "a detail which is made pleasant due to Mars's" → "a detail which is added to by Mars's" to be less biased
• "is in the key of" → "is set in the key of"
• "Jem Aswad writing for Variety described" → "Jem Aswad, writing for Variety, described"
• Invoke [5] at the end of the similarities sentence too
• "The lyrics were compared to" → "The lyrics were compared by him to"
• "Jon Dolan writing for Rolling Stone affirmed" → "Jon Dolan, for Rolling Stone, affirmed"

 Done

Critical reception

• Retitle to Reception and merge with the following section
• The word charm does not need speech marks around it
• "is one of the most seductive tracks by Mars's" → "amplifies the seductiveness of Mars's"
• "as "smooth and funky" and "chill"." → "as "smooth[,] funky", and "chill"." for correct grammar
• Reading Ye without the context reminded of my man for a moment, though he has been introduced earlier in the article so this is fine!
• "In a mixed review, Sheldon Pearce, for The New Yorker," → "In a mixed review for The New Yorker, Sheldon Pearce"
• Invoke [22] after both of The New Yorker sentences
• Italicise No Ripcord
• "from their rigid template". Rivers added that" → "from their rigid template", adding that"

 Done

Commercial performance

• Make this the third para of the above section
• "on Billboard's Hot 100 chart." → "on the US Billboard Hot 100."
• "the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs at" → "the US Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart at"
• Pipe NZ Top 40 Singles Chart to Official New Zealand Music Chart
• Start a new sentence at "this achievement"

 Done

Personnel

• Good

Charts

• Good

References

• Copyvio score looks great at 25.9%!!!
• Italicize An Evening with Silk Sonic in the titles of refs 5, 10, 11, 13, 18, 21 and 23
• Ditto on ref 6 and shouldn't Sputnikmusic be cited as publisher?
• Italicize An Evening with Silk Sonic in the title and Paste Magazine → Paste and pipe to Paste (magazine) on ref 7
• Musicnotes → Musicnotes.com on ref 14
• Add url-access limited to ref 16

Is it really necessary to italicize An Evening with Silk Sonic in the refs? I have never seen this done before. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 11:15, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

• Since it is an album title, that would be appropriate. --K. Peake 07:46, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

   Done MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 08:04, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed! --K. Peake 09:25, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

  Thanks for the review. I will try to finish it during this weekend. I also left some questions. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 22:18, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

  @Kyle Peake: I believe I have addressed every issue, but please let me know if I missed something. I also left questions regarding the lead and production. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 08:08, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

  ✓ Pass now, no issues are remaining and I did some brief copy editing; you were very smooth in dealing with all the comments! --K. Peake 08:45, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

  Thank you so much! MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:41, 2 April 2023 (UTC)