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A fact from Adalet Cimcoz appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 6 November 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Turkish voice actress Adalet Cimcoz opened and curated her country's first and only woman-owned private art gallery?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/November. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Adalet Cimcoz.

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 14:17, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Turkish voice actress Adalet Cimcoz opened and curated her country's first long-standing woman-owned private art gallery? Source: "Ünlü dublaj sanatçısı ve yazar Adalet Cimcoz ..." (in Turkish) [1], " Adalet Cimcoz, 25 Aralık 1950'de çağdaş sanatın gelişimine katkı sağlayan Maya Sanat Galerisi'ni , Beyoğlu´nda Kallavi Sokak, 20 numaralı iki katlı bir apartmanın birinci katında açtı ve 1955 yılında kapanışına kadar yöneticiliğini yaptı. Maya Sanat Galerisi, Türkiye'nin uzun soluklu ve kurucusu kadın olan ilk özel sanat galerisidir." (in Turkish) [2]

Reviewed: Wojciech Sadurski

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 13:17, 19 October 2020 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article is new, long enough, and plagiarism free (see Earwig report). The hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ also done. The article, however, needs to fix an issue. The second paragraph of the Voice actress subheading needs to be more neutral. Darwin Naz (talk) 00:24, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Darwin Naz: Thank you for your review. Would you be please more specific for the a.m. issue so that I can take appropiate action. CeeGee 06:31, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@CeeGee:. I have cited the second paragraph of the Voice actress subheading. It needs to have an impartial tone. It currently contains descriptive words (also unsourced) statements see WP:PUFFERY. For example, "She used the daily speech of the people, free of ornaments. It was a short and striking Turkish that was as simple as it could get, made much sense with few words" You can just say, "She used the language of the common people" (including the citation otherwise this is tantamount to stating your own opinion about her voice acting). Avoid using adjectives such as "best", "short", "simple", "striking", etc. You are also expressing an argument or opinion about her success. You can fix these by simply stating facts and adding sources. The problem is confined to the cited paragraph. Regards, Darwin Naz (talk) 12:16, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Darwin Naz: Copyedited. Please recheck. Thanks. CeeGee 10:18, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@CeeGee:. I have added this citation (7). Please check if the source is similar to the cited reference that precedes it (6). If yes, kindly adjust or format accordingly. Thanks. Darwin Naz (talk) 11:56, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hook is approved. The previously cited issue has been addressed. The article adheres to all DYK criteria. Darwin Naz (talk) 22:40, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Darwin Naz: Your addition of that reference is correct. Thank you also for your attention. CeeGee 05:51, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I came by to promote this, and did some editing to try to smooth out the wording. Please check to see that I understood everything. I added "citation-needed" and "date-needed" tags for pertinent facts. The lead also needs to be expanded per WP:LEAD.
The hook reads either redundantly or strangely. Also in the article, if it was the first, you don't need to say it remained the first until its closure. You may mean that it was "the first and only". For the hook, do you mean:
ALT1: ... that Turkish voice actress Adalet Cimcoz opened and curated her country's first and only woman-owned private art gallery?
Frankly, I think you have a shorter and better hook fact in her nickname.
ALT2: ... that Adalet Cimcoz was known as "The Mischief-maker"? Yoninah (talk) 01:58, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: I copyedited the article for issues yo claimed, and expanded the lead. Please recheck once again, and if it is OK remove the head warn-tag. Thank you very much for your review in depth and for helping improve the article. I will call the original reviewer for approval. CeeGee 11:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Darwin Naz: The nomination was pulled back. After some copyeditings and addition of two ALTs, a review by you is needed. Would you please take time and review again. Thanks. CeeGee 11:12, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another review is not necessary. The citations are all in place and the lead has been expanded. Let's go with ALT1 per Darwin Naz's review. Yoninah (talk) 14:16, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Thank you for your efforts. CeeGee 14:46, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Responding to the ping CeeGee: I am glad everything is resolved. Regards, Darwin Naz (talk) 22:06, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]