Talk:Acquainted with the Night

Sonnet?

Why does the article state that the poem is "like a sonnet"? I believe the poem is a sonnet.

The text of the poem is not public-domain. It was published in 1928.--Grand Slam 7 | Talk 13:55, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Change the word "admission"

Depression is not something to shamefully *admit* you have. It's just something you have. Please change the wording.

There is nothing wrong with the wording; you can both have depression and admit to it. Some people feel shame for their depression. Not done. Mr. Spink ^{^{talk★contribs}} 16:03, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you feel that your depression shames you and therefore is something you feel you have to admit to, and it is equally true for many others that recognising a depression is nothing to be ashamed of is itself a step towards getting out of the darkness. But the only thing that matters is whether Frost felt is was something he was admitting to.

I do not know the answer to that one, by the way. It is clear that Frost felt something like shame or frustration for letting those down who trusted him and depended on him, in his career and in his duties; this is apparent from the poem at hand and many others. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:D948:DC28:C077:7F24 (talk) 13:22, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the first remark in this section (depression is not something you 'admit' to), and also with the statement that what matters is whether Frost felt it was an 'admission'. But I think you'd need very strong evidence that that's how Frost felt, to justify using this word, which is far from being objective and may reflect the opinion of the writer. Snugglepuss (talk) 15:25, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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" terza rima is much less difficult to write in Italian than it is in English. Because of its difficulty, very few writers in English..."

This is editorialising. It is true that TR is easier in Italian than it is in English, but it is not as hard as these remarks make it out to be. The supposed near-impossibility of TR in English is a myth that is entrenched in US academic tradition (I strongly suspect for the somewhat petty reason that certain scholars would like their non-TR translations of Dante to be widely acclaimed). It is also true that Frost was a master of very smooth rhyme, but the suggestion that only a herculean figure such as Frost could ever attempt TR in English is preposterous. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:D948:DC28:C077:7F24 (talk) 13:17, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]