Talk:A Storm of Swords/Archive 1

Archive 1

Changes

Just modified the page somewhat to fit in better with the other novel pages and added some info on the awards the book was nominated for and won. I have to say I cannot fathom how getting images into the pages works, but I think it would be interesting to get the second UK cover (for when the book was split in half) on the page as well. It can be seen here [1].--Werthead 21:44, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Summary length

The "Seven Kingdoms" section seems way too long to me. Of course, the vast majority of viewpoints are centered there, but, still. Might we possibly separate this section further into "North / Riverlands" and "South / King's Landing" sections? The summaries would be far more cohesive, and easier to read, this way. Put Sansa, Tyrion and Ser Davos's scenes in under King's Landing, and Catelyn and Arya in the north. Where Jaime belongs is questionable; potentially he could transition from one to the other after rescuing Brienne (the North would have to come first to make sense). Does this seem reasonable or even wise to anyone else? ~Marblespire 20:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Screw it. Be'd BOLD and did it. ~Marblespire 05:43, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree about the excessive length of Martin's "Game of Throne" novel summaries. These are long, plot-intensive books with hundreds of characters, inter-relating in numerous complex narrative threads. I would argue that the synopses are an appropriate length. ----fisher1

The fact is, a Wikipedia article is meant to provide a summary to help the reader understand what a novel is about, not recount every plot point or serve as Cliff's Notes. WP policy sets certain content restraints and I see no reason why we can't conform to them. Certainly we can push the envelope since Martin's storylines are indeed intricate, but in general the summaries are horribly bloated.— TAnthony^Talk

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Allusion

On June 11th, 2007 I added a brief section on what seems to me a clear literary allusion to Shakespeare's 3H6. Why was it deleted? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.89.66.135 (talk • contribs).

It was deleted because original ideas, even those that seem obvious to some people, are not allowed on Wikipedia under the policy on original research. If you can find a quote from the author saying that it was a conscious allusion, or one from a notable critic suggesting that it might have been, you can restore the section with that source; otherwise, I'm afraid, it's no go. If you have other questions, feel free to ask. Thanks for asking, and for your contributions to Wikipedia. Brendan Moody 12:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, it is known one of Martin's major influence was the War of the Roses (unquoted too), and William's work too [2], [3]. since Henry VI, Part 1 takes place during that historical period, it make sense. Unreferenced, but very clear. ---- Fernando Estel · ^{(Talk: here- commons- es)}

13:11, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Internet Book List

I checked the link, and A Storm of Swords is no longer the #1 rated book on the list... it's no longer even in the top 20...so I went ahead and removed the note.--UlmoSan (talk) 00:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

My first changes

I just finished reading this book so it is fresh in my mind. I came here to read the plot summary to see if I missed anything, and found a couple things I felt needed to be changed or added. I hope I am doing this correctly.

SeldomWrong 2013 Aug 09. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeldomWrong (talk • contribs) 15:06, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I went back to my copy of the book and realized that Dany "paid" all three ships, rather than just one. Now revised. I must also admit that I did not understand the "Minor Edit" check box, apparently, my edit from earlier today was not a minor edit. SeldomWrong (talk) 01:55, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Who is Will?

There is a character named Will named three times in the 'On the Wall' section of the plot summary. I'm guessing that Will is a mistake that needs to be replaced with Sam/Samwell. It's been a while since reading this book though, so I in case I'm just thoroughly confused, and Ser Will is indeed real, I didn't edit. (Also, as a newcomer, am shy about edits still). Thanks, all. Marjaq (talk) 07:13, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

I guess you've figured it out by now, but Will is indeed real, and not at all Sam. But he's in the first book's prologue, not this one. The article's apparently been fixed, so just an FYI for anyone reading this and wondering. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:34, 7 September 2013 (UTC)