Talk:A Perfect Circle/GA1
GA Review
[edit]GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
This article is in decent shape, but it needs more work before it becomes a Good Article.
- Is it well written?
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- Well done.
- B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
- In the lead, the link to "Emotive" needs to be fixed. In the Mer de Noms (1999-2001) section, it would be best if "The Hollow" was linked once, per here.
- Check. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 20:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- In the lead, the link to "Emotive" needs to be fixed. In the Mer de Noms (1999-2001) section, it would be best if "The Hollow" was linked once, per here.
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
- C. It contains no original research:
- D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- Is it neutral?
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- In the Mer de Noms (1999–2001) section, this ---> "Perfect Circle is the brainchild", sounds like POV and may need to be re-written. Same section, "The album gave birth to three singles", needs to be re-written.
- Half-check. Same section, the new sentence "The idea for A Perfect Circle was conceived by...", it somehow doesn't sound right. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 20:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- In the Mer de Noms (1999–2001) section, this ---> "Perfect Circle is the brainchild", sounds like POV and may need to be re-written. Same section, "The album gave birth to three singles", needs to be re-written.
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- Is it stable?
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- Is there a free-use image for the infobox?
- B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- If the statements above can be answered, I will pass the article. Good luck with improving this article!
- Pass or Fail:
-- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 08:02, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- I've fixed the linking issues as well as the potentially POV statements. Good catch on "The Hollow". I thought I had already gotten them all. Regarding free images, there isn't one where they're all together. There are free images of each individual, but not the band as a whole. The only alternative, unless we can get someone to release an image under GFDL, is to create a mashup of all the free images. Regarding the image in use now, it has already undergone scrutinizing at IFD and survived. The fair-use statement is the same for the APC discography, and that passed FLC. If you think it would be worth it to create a montage of sorts from free images, I'll give it a go. - Yohhans talk 18:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- An example image of the band created from multiple photos: Image:Apc.jpg - Yohhans talk 18:30, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- This was suggested during the IFD. An issue that I pointed out is that Maynard's look is very different between Tool and APC. The only free images of him are performing for Tool, so it's not exactly an accurate representation of the group. I think in that the image has survived IFD for use in both of these articles, it's an appropriate use and meets the necessary requirements. Jennavecia (Talk) 18:36, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- True. We would have to find a picture of him with one of his trademark wigs. In any case, there is no way to get a free image of APC. Do you think it wrong to represent the group in the manner I presented? - Yohhans talk 18:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I can't argue here about the image. I just thought I'd brought it up, since its a fair use image used in the article's infobox. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 20:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, I see what you're saying. It's a real shame that a free image can't be found. Regarding the sentence that was changed to "The idea for A Perfect Circle was conceived by... ... how about just dropping "The idea for"? For some reason, this sentence is giving me far more trouble than it should. - Yohhans talk 21:47, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds fine. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 15:32, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Changed to the new version. - Yohhans talk 15:57, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds fine. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 15:32, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, I see what you're saying. It's a real shame that a free image can't be found. Regarding the sentence that was changed to "The idea for A Perfect Circle was conceived by... ... how about just dropping "The idea for"? For some reason, this sentence is giving me far more trouble than it should. - Yohhans talk 21:47, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I can't argue here about the image. I just thought I'd brought it up, since its a fair use image used in the article's infobox. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 20:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- True. We would have to find a picture of him with one of his trademark wigs. In any case, there is no way to get a free image of APC. Do you think it wrong to represent the group in the manner I presented? - Yohhans talk 18:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- This was suggested during the IFD. An issue that I pointed out is that Maynard's look is very different between Tool and APC. The only free images of him are performing for Tool, so it's not exactly an accurate representation of the group. I think in that the image has survived IFD for use in both of these articles, it's an appropriate use and meets the necessary requirements. Jennavecia (Talk) 18:36, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- An example image of the band created from multiple photos: Image:Apc.jpg - Yohhans talk 18:30, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you to Yohhans for getting the stuff I left at the talk page, because I have gone off and placed the article as GA. Congrats. ;) -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 23:55, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Fantastic! Thanks for the painless review process. :) - Yohhans talk 00:10, 30 September 2008 (UTC)