Talk:AES Barbers Point Plant

Energy Low‑importance

	Energy portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Energy, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Energy on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.EnergyWikipedia:WikiProject EnergyTemplate:WikiProject Energyenergy articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Hawaii

	Hawaii portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Hawaii, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Hawaii on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.HawaiiWikipedia:WikiProject HawaiiTemplate:WikiProject HawaiiHawaii articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Requested move 23 October 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

It was proposed in this section that AES Hawaii Power Plant be renamed and moved to Barbers Point Power Plant.

result:
Moved. Consensus that a move is needed, but to one of the alternative proposals. AES Barbers Point Plant selected since it was slightly preferred, and there was no opposition. (closed by non-admin page mover) -2pou (talk) 19:52, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move logs: source title · target title

This is template {{subst:Requested move/end}}

AES Hawaii Power Plant → Barbers Point Power Plant – Hello, this power plant was actually called the Barbers Point Power Plant when it was operational. AES Hawaii is now solely comprised of renewable energy projects and having this non-operational plant be called the AES Hawaii Power Plant is misleading to the public. Respectfully requesting the name of this page to be changed to Barbers Point Power Plant, so that we may start a new page for the AES Hawaii Company and provide current information without confusion. For further proof, the attached New York Times articles states: "The station, the Barbers Point Power Plant near Kalaeloa, in southwest Oahu, provided more than 11 percent of the state’s electricity in 2021, according to data from the U.S. Energy Information." Feel free to contact me with any questions, thank you very much. Nina.santarpia (talk) 05:49, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The article that the requestor is referring to is this one: New York Times News Article. The requestor did include the link in their original post, but it clashed with the heading format, so I am moving it here. Aoi (青い) (talk) 08:17, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Additional comment. I am not sure what the appropriate COMMONNAME is. Here are some sources that I've found, the name that each uses, and the year of publication:

AES Barbers Point (Plant/Facility/etc.)
1. Atlas of Hawaiʻi (3rd edition), by Sonia P. Juvik and James O. Juvik, refers to the power plant as "AES Barbers Point Plant" (page 264). (1998)
2. This conference paper hosted by the Office of Scientific and Technical Information refers to the plant as the "AES Barbers Point plant". (1993)
3. This conference paper, also hosted by the Office of Scientific and Technical Information, refers to the plant as the "AES Barbers Point facility". (1994)
Barbers Point Power Plant
1. A New York Times article from 2022 that refers to the plant as "Barbers Point Power Plant." (2022)
Barbers Point Coal Plant
1. A Civil Beat piece that refers to the plant as the "Barbers Point Coal Plant." (2021)
AES power plant
1. A piece by The Guardian refers to the plant as the "AES power plant". (2022)
AES Hawaii Plant
1. The Hawaii Public Utilities Commission generally seems to refer to the plant as the "AES Hawaii Plant" in its orders (here's one docket--I can't link directly to the PDFs but you can click on the first order on the documents page and see that it mentions the "AES Hawaii Plant"). (2021)
2. This paper uses "AES Hawaii Power Plant". (2011).
3. The Department of Health refers to the plant as the "AES Hawaii Cogeneration Plant" in this publication (2022)

There's not much consistency here, though seven of the nine sources do use "AES" in the name, and five of the nine use "Barbers Point" in the name. I agree with the OP that some disambiguation is needed because AES has multiple other power generation projects in Hawaii. I would argue that "AES Barbers Point Plant" or "AES Barbers Point Power Plant" is a more appropriate article title given the weight of the sources (I think the former might be better for brevity). Aoi (青い) (talk) 08:23, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Aoi! I agree with that - definitely want to remain transparent that it was owned / operated by AES, so having AES in the title is fine. As you mentioned, since the plant closing in 2021, AES has so many other power stations on Hawaii so I believe the original title of "AES Power Plant" is misleading and confusing which is why I am bringing this up. I think either of those titles you proposed in your last message definitely bring that clarity, but I'm open to further discussion if needed. Thank you for your help and for your research! Nina.santarpia (talk) 08:33, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.