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Good article350 North Orleans has been listed as one of the Art and architecture good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
September 18, 2010Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on July 24, 2010.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that 350 West Mart Center was owned by the Kennedy family for over 20 years and sits on land that they owned for over 50 years?

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Is this building the one on the left of the lower picture with the "Chicago Sun-Times" sign? I think I recognize that being the building with the Holiday Inn on top, but the article never says exactly which building I'm supposed to be looking at. The fact that the Sun-Times sign isn't mentioned anywhere in the article is confusing as well. --Golbez (talk) 14:05, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:350 West Mart Center/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Initial reading of the article has raised a few questions and issues. I will be commenting on failed criteria as I work through them.

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    C. No original research:
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:


Detailed Review

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Prose

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I see now, much more clear Lvi56 (talk) 18:28, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Upon further reading, the quote is ok. The final sentence raises a question. In the lead it is mentioned that the building is owned by Vernado, but this is not mentioned in the background. The last sentence says that Christopher Kennedy now presides over Merchandise Mart properties, does this include the Apparel Center? Perhaps there should be a distinction/clarification here that the Kennedy's sold the building, and if I understand correctly, retained interest in adjacent properties. Lvi56 (talk) 19:09, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tenants can also be reworked for a better prose and logical flow. Probably the best suggestion I have is to mention previous tenants of the building and then include a list of current tenants and any relevant details to their occupation of the building

Major Aspects

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  • The final paragraph of Background doesn't seem at all related to the building itself, but to adjacent property.
    • If you look at the new picture on the bottom right, that paragraph is detailing the big parking lot in front of the building (Block 14 on the plat map). People concerned with this building would want to know if they are going to build a big building in front of it to block its view. Thus the brief para.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:47, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, the paragraph should mention how development on that property would affect this building. Lvi56 (talk) 18:31, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How is it now?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:31, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Overall through the reading, I didn't really learn much about the building. There's almost more about the land it sits on than the building itself. I also felt confused with the many names being thrown around of the building itself and adjacent buildings.
    • This is one of those buildings where details are hard to come by. Look at the emporis page. Every detail from that page is in the article. There is not much more detail to be found from what I can tell. The notability of the building stems from its ownership history and the land upon which it sits so I elaborate on that in the article. Sorry about the confusion about all the neighboring buildings. If you see anything particularly confusing in the prose point it out so that I can correct it.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:58, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tenants could definatly be expanded.
It is mentioned that Holiday Inn occupies the top 10 floors, and Illinois Bell is a tenant as well, are those the only two? Lvi56 (talk) 18:33, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am trying to work from mentions in the popular press as to who the notable tenants are. I guess one could go down there and start listing them. This of course would border on WP:OR.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:25, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Images

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While images not not required, if included should be relevant and have suitable captions. Perhaps direct me to where this building is in the pictures. The infobox caption is a little long, anyway to shorten it while still letting me know which building is the Apparel center? Lvi56 (talk) 18:28, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have tried to clarify the WP:CAPTIONs.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:28, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unsigned points are mine from initial detailed review Lvi56 (talk) 07:31, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Review Progress

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GA concerns

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I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria because there are numerous uncited statements throughout the article, including the entire "Window Installation" and "Tenant Amenity Spaces" sections. Is anyone interested in addressing these concerns? Z1720 (talk) 00:57, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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