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Legacy of the Kommissars
[edit]I think we can add that they were some of the first victims of the rising nationalism in the Caucasus. As far as I know in Armenia the Azizbeyov monument was vandalized while Shahumyan's one is still in its place, cn someone confirm it? In Baku there are still monuments about Azizbeyov and Japaridze. Azizbeyov is still respected 'cause he was Azeri ad opposed the Dashnaks and Japaridze is seen as a symbhol of friendship with the Georgian people, so his monument is still inside a park 'cause georgians did nothing to azeris. There is also the Baku Commissars' memorial in the center, but names are being cancelled and also monuments around were removed, but substancially the monument is still in a good condition. Sometimes you can see young people sitting there. Archstaunton (talk) 16:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- I wouldnt say that. Your vandal nation removed the last remnants of the commissars in order to build a private car parking.--armenianNY 03:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by ArmenianNY (talk • contribs)
- I had already asked about the survival of one of the monuments: Talk:26_Commissars_Memorial. Maybe the monument that, in the article I cited, is said to have been destroyed is not the one in the center of Baku, or maybe it's author is just wrong. Isn't there also a monument at the location where they were executed? BTW, in the text of the article, should the word "commissars" be capitalised or not - I felt it shouldn't. Currently in the article sometimes it is not capitalised and sometimes it is. Also inconsistant is the title of the "Ashkhabad Committee", it is also called the Ashkhabad Directorate", but I don't know which is correct (or if either are). Meowy 17:19, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- BTW, the Shahumyan monument in Yerevan is still there - but there are no inscriptions or Soviet symbols on it. Don't know if that is because they have been removed or because they never existed. Meowy 17:29, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- You're right about capital letters, I think the word "commissars" should be capitalised only when one mentions the "Baku Commissars" like in the beginning, but in other cases it's not needed. About other thing, maybe it's better to use Committee like you did, because I found it more often than Directorate, expecially in russian sources.Unfortunatly I can't remember very well how the monument was before, because I was very young when i left Baku with my family in the beginning of those awful 90's. Maybe i should ask my Dad. I came back only recently and I found some monuments of the Soviet past were left. The one of the Commissars is in the center and I can assure you it is still there and in good conditions. Then I saw for example commissars Azizbeyov and Japaridze, you know I think the authorities moved mainly those soviets who were armenians or russians, because for example you can see the big Narimanov statue ( but they removed iscriptions in russian ) and Richard Zorge in the park for kids, then Azi Haslanov and so on, don't know if Musabeyov statue is stil there but I think so. They moved Lenin and unfortunately also the big Kirov I saw from my window when i was a kid. You can't imagine how big it was that monument, it was on top of a hill and you could see it almost from every point of the city. I've read when nationalism grew armenians destroyed Azizbeyov statue and azeris destroyed Shahumyan's one. Maybe someone a bit older than me who remembers well the collapse of SU period can help? (Archstaunton (talk) 18:11, 21 February 2008 (UTC))
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