Talk:21 July 2005 London bombings

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the 21 July 2005 London bombings article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1: 3 months

Manfo Kwaku Asiedu was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 9 July 2021 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into 21 July 2005 London bombings. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

Crime and Criminal Biography: Terrorism Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Crime and Criminal Biography articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Crime and Criminal BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyCrime-related articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Terrorism task force (assessed as Low-importance).

Disaster management Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Disaster management, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Disaster management on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Disaster managementWikipedia:WikiProject Disaster managementTemplate:WikiProject Disaster managementDisaster management articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

London High‑importance

	London portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject London, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of London on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.LondonWikipedia:WikiProject LondonTemplate:WikiProject LondonLondon-related articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Islam: Islam and Controversy Low‑importance

	Islam portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Islam, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Islam-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IslamWikipedia:WikiProject IslamTemplate:WikiProject IslamIslam-related articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Islam and Controversy task force.

Trains: in UK / in London Low‑importance

	Trains Portal

	London Transport Portal

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Trains, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to rail transport on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. See also: WikiProject Trains to do list and the Trains Portal.TrainsWikipedia:WikiProject TrainsTemplate:WikiProject Trainsrail transport articles

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Associated projects or task forces:
/
	This article is supported by WikiProject UK Railways (assessed as Mid-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject London Transport (assessed as High-importance).

An editor has requested that an image or photograph be added to this article.

United Kingdom Low‑importance

	United Kingdom portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United Kingdom, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the United Kingdom on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.United KingdomWikipedia:WikiProject United KingdomTemplate:WikiProject United KingdomUnited Kingdom articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Explosions

The article says that the explosions were caused by detonator caps. But the standard method of detonation is electrical. Is there any specific reference to caps ? It was reported that the explosions were caused by the detonators, I suggest that the most likely explanation is an electrical fuse, could be a bit of fuse wire or a low voltage bulb broken open, or a photographic flashbulb broken open, with semtex filaments carrying the fire throughout the body of the charge. The article should not be more specific than what is certain. Reg nim (talk) 00:28, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

nc —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.255.47.120 (talk) 19:51, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"terrorist attack"

Per WP:Avoid the words "terrorist" and "terrorism" should be avoided. This guideline is inconsistently followed, and is less likely to be followed on pages documenting attacks on or in Western countries than on or in 3rd World or non-NATO countries. This amounts to Systemic bias. This page is a prominent example of the use of these words when they could be avoided.

The article currently says "It was immediately apparent that the explosions were the result of a terrorist attack..." I propose replacing "terrorist" with "intentional". It changes the meaning of the sentence only slightly--by being more specific if anything.

I am discussing this rather than simply changing the word because I have attempted to remove all references to "terrorist" and "terrorism" from the article once already (in the process making the unfortunate and embarrassing choice to use the word "extremist"--also part of the guideline). This particular instance of the word was reverted. However, I still think the article would be better off without it, and I would like to change it with consensus. Revcasy (talk) 17:38, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dead link

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

http://itn.co.uk/news/3967b7a45c8a1847f5ba6d060069a0ec.html
- In 2006 transatlantic aircraft plot on 2011-05-26 02:25:19, 404 Not Found
- In 2006 transatlantic aircraft plot on 2011-06-14 22:27:34, 404 Not Found
- In 21 July 2005 London bombings on 2011-06-19 05:25:16, 404 Not Found

--JeffGBot (talk) 05:25, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 7 external links on 21 July 2005 London bombings. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13397188,00.html
Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22989-1702712,00.html
Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1189833,00.html
Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1189920,00.html
Corrected formatting/usage for https://www.theguardian.com/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1538935,00.html
Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070121135832/http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2162851.ece to http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2162851.ece
Added archive https://archive.is/20070611154745/http://www.pmo.gov.uk/output/Page7969.asp to http://www.pmo.gov.uk/output/Page7969.asp
Added {{dead link}} tag to http://cms.met.police.uk/news/major_operational_announcements/terrorist_attacks/london_incidents_21_july

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 23:20, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on 21 July 2005 London bombings. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://www.webcitation.org/5v7oxzBQu?url=http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13397188,00.html to http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13397188,00.html

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 02:40, 7 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Islamic terrorism"

Whoever keeps adding the words "islamic terrorism" and related templates to the article, should better find reliable sources for this. As it stands now, the perpetrators were found guilty of an "intention to murder" and not of terrorism. The article, based on sources, also makes it clear that the motive behind the attack was "revenge" and not religion (i.e., a sense of a religious obligation). Will be removing these POV templates added fairly recently. — kashmīrī ^TALK 08:53, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]