Talk:20 Fenchurch Street

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Nickname

The citation for the nickname lists both "The Walkie Talkie" and "The Pint", yet this second name was not in the article. When I added it, it was removed. Why? 85.159.85.2 (talk) 10:30, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Two years ago, someone may have said it resembles a "Pint", but I am based near the building and have never, not even once, heard it be referred to as that. It is known almost universally as "the Walkie-Talkie" in both common usage and the press. --TBM10 (talk) 12:35, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So we should ignore the cited newspaper article in favour of your opinion? 85.159.85.2 (talk) 07:52, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's not my opinion, it's fact. There are a hundred other citations we could use which universally and exclusively refer to it as the Walkie-Talkie. --TBM10 (talk) 12:45, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone is calling it "The Pint", and the FT article does, then it is not "universally and exclusively" known as the walkie talkie so that is not a fact, it is an opinion. 85.159.85.2 (talk) 12:54, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Artist's impression

Is there any reason I shouldn't upload this onto the main article? Everyone wants to know what it'll look like and they shouldn't have to google it. http://londonist.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/wtmain.jpg --RatnimSnave (talk) 16:21, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The artist's impression is totally different to the reality. It was only created to fool the planning approval dept. The sky garden shows trees sprouting up from the ground and a massive window. In reality there are a few shrubs in pots and the window view is obscured by the girders holding up the roof. QuentinUK (talk)

Height dilemma

Is that 180 metres? [1]

Sun Reflection

There have been reports of the building reflecting and focusing sunlight onto cars and other things so intensely that they melt http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23930675 and http://news.uk.msn.com/trending-blog/skyscraper-walkie-talkie-heat-ray-strikes-again/

I'm not familiar with the rules and conventions of editing wikipedia articles, would someone who is be willing to update the article to include mention of this?

213.107.64.120 (talk) 11:51, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It has been already. --TBM10 (talk) 12:38, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

RFC: Fryscraper

The consensus of the discussion is, that the "Fryscraper" nickname should be mentioned in the article, but not in the lead. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 11:29, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Outside of architectural circles, this tower only made international news under "Fryscraper" so this is not "undue", it is what it is notable for internationally (ie. outside of UK). Therefore "Fryscraper" should exist (be mentioned) in this article. -- 70.24.244.158 (talk) 02:37, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

'Fryscraper' has been used in headlines worldwide, eg:

London’s Walkie-Talkie ‘Fryscraper’ Draws Crowds in Heat Bloomberg
Architect Behind London's 'Fryscraper' Blames Outside Consultants For Building's Car-Melting Deathray Business Insider
Glare from ‘fryscraper’ melting cars in London Times of India
Glare from London 'fryscraper' becomes an attraction USA Today
London's "fryscraper" melts cars CBS News (video)
London ‘fryscraper’ glare melts cars Japan Times

Should be reinserted. -- Hillbillyholiday ^talk 02:57, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would say appropriate to mention in the section on sun reflection along with "walkie scorchie", but not in the lead. Only time will tell which name stick and are used by the public at large.--User:Salix alba (talk): 08:39, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with Salix. --TBM10 (talk) 21:07, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, definitely not the lede. A simple sentence in the appropriate section will do. -- Hillbillyholiday ^talk 21:57, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. If the name "Fryscraper" is popularly appearing in the press it makes sense to mention it, which is done in the Criticisms section. Depending on the outcome of the complaints, etc., it may become relevant to add an indication of the problems to the lede, but I think the situation needs to play out further before adding too many more nicknames for the tower to the lede. -- Metheglyn (talk) 04:01, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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wordy

I think I'm missing something, is this sentence correct? "Despite the top-down method of construction, the old building was not demolished from the bottom-up, as a temporary structure was built, allowing Keltbray, the demolition contractor, to demolish the building from the top down." GreaseballNYC (talk) 16:34, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Main Picture

Main picture needs updating to a newer photograph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.30.11.159 (talk) 22:43, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The Sky Garden is an interior roof garden that occupies the 34th to 37th floors of 20 Fenchurch Street, London. Called London's highest public park, it includes a large viewing area, terrace, bar and two restaurants. However, it has drawn criticism for its limited greenery.Photograph: Colin

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Sky garden and storeys - article and picture caption are contradictory

The article says the building has 34 storeys, and the Sky Garden occupies the top three. The picture caption says the Sky Garden occupies 4 storeys, going up to the 37th. DuncanHill (talk) 11:22, 20 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And the Sky Garden website says the building has 38 storeys.^[1] DuncanHill (talk) 11:58, 20 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "About 20 Fenchurch Street". Sky Garden. Retrieved 20 May 2018.

Sixth tallest? How many storeys?

The lead claims it's the sixth tallest building in the City, the website says fifth. Website says 38 storeys, article variously either 34 or 37. DuncanHill (talk) 11:55, 20 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "About 20 Fenchurch Street". Sky Garden. Retrieved 20 May 2018.

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