Talk:2023 24 Hours of Le Mans

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Review: October 13, 2024. (Reviewed version).

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Writing

quote Start and early hours The track was declared wet for the start of the race but everybody opted for slick tyres at the start. Honory guest NBA legend LeBron James waived the French flag to start the race.unquote

Honory is a word I don't know. The construction of the sentences is very awkward. "To waive" is a different word with a different meaning instead of "to wave". This needs major work. 87.164.88.63 (talk) 21:22, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Garage 56"

@2a00:23c6:4d00:3d01:4145:ea8:46fd:36c1: Please see the official entry list [1] which uses "Innovative Car" and not "Garage 56". ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 02:28, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

and here is a secondary reference describing the Cup car as ... — the lone member of the special “Innovative Car class.” ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 03:50, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:2023 24 Hours of Le Mans/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: EnthusiastWorld37 (talk · contribs) 11:53, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: DoctorWhoFan91 (talk · contribs) 06:03, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take this one, expect initial remarks in the next 24 hours (edit- 48-72 hours). DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 06:03, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's a long article, so I'll give remarks heading by heading. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 09:45, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

three-driver teams: teams of three drivers
Wikilink GT and Protptype like in the 2022 article.
- No, to the racing car type, see the wikilinks for the 2022 edition
  - Done EnthusiastWorld37 (talk) 06:34, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    - No, i meant this ( Le Mans Prototypes (LMP) and [[Le Mans Grand Touring Endurance (LMGTE) cars) User:EnthusiastWorld37, like in the 2022 article?
      - Amended EnthusiastWorld37 (talk) 09:44, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The week before the event, on 4 June, there was a test day.: There was a test day on 4th June, a week before the event.
Their teammates James Calado, Antonio Giovinazzi and Alessandro Pier Guidi won overall after leading the final 55 laps.: Make it clear that there are multiple cars by a single team.

Background

Separate the 3 different categories into 3 different paragraphs- The sea of blue makes it feel confusing, so the team positions will help separate them as well

Regulation changes

the Automobile Club de l'Ouest: Add (ACO) after
LMGTE Pro was dropped from the race in 2023, leaving only the Le Mans Grand Touring Endurance Amateur (LMGTE Am) class.: Mention that it's the only class remaining for GT racing, reads confuingly otherwise.

Pre-race balance of performance changes

Was their any effect of the teams not consenting to the change
- Umm?
  - I cannot find any information on this specifically EnthusiastWorld37 (talk) 09:43, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Race Results

No changes required

Championship Standings

Table 1 and 2 of Hypercar seem to not have any space between them in my browser, needs some

@EnthusiastWorld37: Sorry, forgot to ping! DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 09:53, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DoctorWhoFan91: Have made changes to the article based on the above points EnthusiastWorld37 (talk) 14:38, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@EnthusiastWorld37: Added a reply in the lead section; I'll add comments for the other headings later (semi-busy IRL). DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 06:18, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Entries

No changes required

Testing

with two minutes left.[31][33][34] Toyota's No. 7 : left;[31][33][34] Toyata's No 7; Also split the para after this sentence.

Qualifying

Hyperpole in LMP2. In LMGTE Am,: Split the para between these two sentences
as a precaution.[65] LMP2 pole position Split here, like above

Warm-up

Last sentence: Why did he stop there?
- I am unable to find the exact reason for why he stopped there EnthusiastWorld37 (talk) 09:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-Race

Had minor issues, fixed them myself

Race

Mention the full name of pole-sitter Nielsen, as there is also a car with that name.
Add 'the' before names of corners and Straights
Add team names and numbers along with driver name, as it gets confusing with groups of three, see last year's article
Read through and do some copy-editing, there were a lot of grammatical errors
Add the hour in which something occurs if it is ambgious, for eg, the lead change in the first para should be mentioned to have occurred in the first hour
Do any other changes you think seem good after reading last year's article.

Spot-check

Reviewing every 15th reference in general

Ref-1: 91st staging ... centenary edition ... first running in 1923.
Ref-16: order of their list, regardless of the category
Ref-31: Beautiful, sunny skies
Ref-46: Cadillac took fourth position ... Kamui Kobayashi jumped to fifth place
Ref-61: a masterful 3:22.982
Ref-76: increasingly wetter ... the Hunnaudieres straight is still dry
Ref-91: the second hour ... the Dunlop chicane
Ref-106: medical centre ... evaluations ... drivers involved are okay.
Ref-121: tire wall ... damage to the floor
Ref-136: match the pace ... suffered delays ... oil top-ups.
Ref-151: ligament damage and an incomplete fracture

Overall

@EnthusiastWorld37: Added replies to two of your replies above; and added review for four more headings(remaining headings: practice, race and post-race). DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 08:56, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DoctorWhoFan91: More changes to the article have been made based on the new issues raised EnthusiastWorld37 (talk) 09:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll check it, might take a few day's time(along with the rest of the review). DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 19:58, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Need to read the race section as a whole, so it would still take some time. Though I only found minor grammar issues in 'Practice', which I have fixed myself. Only race, and post-race remains. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 18:54, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Still need to do that, it really is quite big. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 17:14, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Checked the race section and added remarks on what should be changed. Will do the spot-check later, and if the issues are fixed by then, will pass the article then, EnthusiastWorld37. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 13:21, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

EnthusiastWorld37, I have performed the spot-check, and am therefore passing the article. Congratulations, it was well-written, and changes and responses were timely. Well done, keep up the good work! DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 16:23, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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