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Use of China Daily for BLP

@Sharontse121: We can't use China Daily for BLP, you know this because you've reviewed the listing at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources right? Perhaps a refresher at WP:BLP is also in order. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 18:46, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Use of Xinhua for BLP

@Sharontse121: this is the place for you to get consensus for the use of Xinhua, although I would suggest that since your suggested use is in direct violation of the consensus recorded at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources that WP:RSN might be the appropriate venue. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:42, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Composer

Who composed the snowflake song the choir sang? -TenorTwelve (talk) 06:42, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Zhang Shuai (b.1979) from Central Conservatory of Music. Porxchp772049 (talk) 4:38, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Major rewrite

Multiple sections of this article are written less like an encyclopaedia, and more like a blog post - It either merits relevant tag or has to be rewritten. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 09:28, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Undue weight to mention non boycotting countries?

Given how it seems acceptable to add in countries that boycott. It's not undue weight to also mention that majority of countries are not joining the boycott, as stated by the Olympic president. Such facts are obviously true. The current article is misleading when it says "non boycotting countries" but lists only less than ten countries. WesternChristianitytestballi (talk) 11:53, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cauldron

Why was the flame not large? Wolf O'Donnel (talk) 20:36, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think there are sources that may describe why, and perhaps it's worth noting in the article? (I say this because I remember NBC saying something about it offhand during the ceremony in a way that made me think maybe more substantial information was discussed somewhere that could be used as a source. - Purplewowies (talk) 04:07, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout

Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout, " Very short sections and subsections clutter an article with headings and inhibit the flow of the prose. Short paragraphs and single sentences generally do not warrant their own subheading." Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 20:48, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have already told you, if you don't intend to make a section heading, don't use boldface. STSC (talk) 23:13, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The short introductory phrases should be integrated into the prose with appropriate punctuation. Otherwise they look like run-on sentences, and screen readers will read them that way, making it hard to navigate for everyone.

Conventionally, the breakdown of events is a list, and so could be formatted that way. I'm not convinced yet, though, that this would be easier to navigate. isaacl (talk) 23:33, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A reminder that this layout undermines the format consistency with previous Winter Olympic openings, see: 2014 Winter Olympics opening ceremony, 2018 Winter Olympics opening ceremony. Bold should never be used as headings and it severely underweights important sections. Some sections "introduction of Bach and Xi" "Children's video" "olympic oath" can be merged but the rest does not constitute "Short paragraphs and single sentences". Porxchp772049 (talk) 2:20, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

I didn't see this earlier. It appears that you're correct and past articles also use subsections even for short ones. CurryCity (talk) 02:47, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pseudoheadings are generally frowned upon in articles both for accessibility reasons (such as with screen readers) and because it doesn't allow for section editing, section linking, section transclusion, etc. If the ToC is getting too long, you can always limit how many levels deep it goes via the {{TOC limit}} template. See MOS:PSEUDOHEAD: Using a pseudo heading at all means you have exhausted all other options. It is meant as a rarity. --Ahecht (TALK
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My original thought before examining the edits in question was to emphasize this point. After reviewing them, I realized the paragraphs more closely resembled a timeline of events, rather than full-fledged subsections. Nonetheless, I agree with the current state where the events have been grouped into subsections. isaacl (talk) 23:13, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]