Talk:2022 French protests

A fact from 2022 French protests appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 10 November 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the 2022 French protests (pictured) against the rising cost of living have been called French president Emmanuel Macron's "stiffest challenge" since his re-election?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by RoySmith (talk) 23:11, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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2022 French protests on 16 October

... that 2022 French protests (pictured) are labeled as "stiffest challenge" for Emanuel Macron since his re-election? Source: [1]
- Reviewed: Su Hanchen

Created by Mhhossein (talk). Self-nominated at 15:32, 26 October 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Reviewing... –LordPeterII (talk) 15:16, 28 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: - missing
Overall: I've done some copyedits, and I think in that regard it's ready for the main page. I've changed the heading name of the "commentary" section to "analysis", since the other word struck me as odd. Issues that remain are: An undated sentence with a comparison ([...] which is less than the 30% percent previously); I've put a "when" template after it. And ofc, a QPQ is missing. –LordPeterII (talk) 18:49, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@LordPeterII: Hi, thanks for the comments. Just did the QPQ. I am happy with your changing of the "commentary" section title, but could not find the date for "less than 30%" which I don't think should not be serious for DYK nomination. Mainly because it is supported by a reliable source after all. --Mhhossein ^talk 06:15, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Mhhossein: Hmm, it wasn't a major issue, but it's a silly thing to have in an article. If we have a statement that something improved or worsened, it only makes sense if we give a timeframe for the comparison. If I were to write "life expectancy in Germany has doubled, compared to before", I can rather think people want to know when that "before" was: The Middle Ages, or the 1990s? ;) Anyway, I followed the link in the Al Jazeera source, and it brought me to the other one where the 30% were written. I put the dates in the article. Since that was the remaining issue, I can

now approve. –LordPeterII (talk) 19:45, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deepening "gabs" to education

I don't know what the intended meaning is here. Perhaps deepening "cuts" to education? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelhurwicz (talk • contribs) 02:31, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Michaelhurwicz: Though it's too late, but reviewed and modified the text. Thanks for the hint. Mhhossein ^talk 11:59, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pension reform strikes

Hi @Amakuru; Considering that the current page mostly focuses on the economical protests primarily triggered in 2022 then the content you removed can be appropriate for this wider scope page. Also, I think the stand-alone page for the pension reform strikes in 2023, for which we have similar titles, is not enough for the content removal. Mhhossein ^talk 12:26, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Mhhossein: - thanks for your message. I wouldn't really set it as directly related, though. This was a well defined series of protests in October, specifically about the cost of living, and it sort of fizzled out by November as I understand it. The recent ones are a new set of strikes and protests, about the different (albeit vaguely related) area of pension reform. It seems like this may become a series of protests too, and for which the other article is similarly structured with a timeline and suchlike. I haven't seen reliable sources linking the two as a single series, and I don't see much merit in duplicating information across both, it risks becoming a multiyear patchwork of mostly unrelated things. Particularly so when we already have the wider Protests against Emmanuel Macron article which summarises this and the other one on a single page already. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 13:20, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply Amakuru. I concur with your words that there should be reliable sources making links between the two sets of protests! --Mhhossein ^talk 13:30, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]