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I'd be grateful if Black Kite may be willing to discuss a change wherein you reverted an edit sourced to a Tweet from a sitting member of Congress (Rashida Tlaib) who mischaracterized the identity of the shooter as white in what appears to be a rush to attribute a tragedy to 'white gun ownership'. This was to be the first of a few examples of this happening that day (which may be provided as matters of record, in their own words) wherein there was a rush to call the shooter 'another white shooter' in so many words.
One must ask: given that ONLY leftwardly oriented sources are considered reliable on the list of perennial sources here, and also given that no left leaning source is likely to impugn someone pulling in their own direction: do you have suggestions on secondary sourcing for inconvenient matters of record that incontrovertibly happened? If not, do you at least see the problem that is already manifesting (and will continue to) over time? --Kkeeran (talk) 15:17, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We all know it was him. Just because he was found incompetent to stand trial doesn't mean he was simply "accused". I don't know I could be wrong if we want to stick to the legal sense of word. Qwexcxewq (talk) 05:19, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's fine now that the suspect's lawyers have acknowledged that he was the shooter. You can say a person did something without calling them a criminal. For example, saying "Alice killed Bob" is not the same as saying she murdered him. Whether or not a person is found guilty of murder does not change the fact that they killed — or didn't kill — someone. It's not libel or slander to state facts. In this particular case, the question is not "whodunit," but whether or not the shooter was sane at the time. I don't see an issue if the information is not disputed. Ixfd64 (talk) 20:25, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]