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What do you call the nr. 4 versus QF-loser round?

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Hi,

In the playoffs there is a sort of complicated system of brackets and I wonder what would be the correct name for some of the rounds. The Tuesday matches A2–B3 and A3–B2 are best called "quarter finals" because the winner qualifies for the semi-finals. But my main concern is the Thursday round where both numbers 4 face the losing quarter finalists. How would you describe this round? Currently it says "Quarter-finals" above the bracket, but that's definitely not true. It says "qualifier 3" and "qualifier 4" in the details, but that is very generic. "5th place semi-finals" or "repechage round" are more fitting, but are they used in cricket related speech?

Greets, FakirNL (talk) 17:35, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, just spotted this. I've changed it to "Qualifiers" as QF is not correct as you've said. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 08:47, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oman/Kenya?

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Why is Oman placed above Kenya when Oman's run-rate is inferior, and (also) when Kenya won the 'head-to-head'? DLMcN (talk) 18:17, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Good spot. Kenya's run rate should be minus 0.645, not plus. I've fixed this. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 18:21, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Result Status

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Hello every body. In this article some matches has the result status as No Result. These matches were like Warm up, Group A, Group B, Semi finals, finals. Few of the matches called off with some play and some matches has no play (even toss). As per Result (cricket), a match result should be 'No Result when a match called off due to rain at any time of play is in progress, and a match result should be 'Match abandoned/Match abandoned without a ball bowled when if no toss has taken.

This was already discussed at WT:CRIC , but that was Archived in Archive 78. So many user accept as Abandoned when no toss has taken. However Lugnuts (talk · contribs) not accepted that and not change the status.

Here once again I add the Links and Summary:

  • No result - A "no result" is effectively the same as a draw, but in a limited overs match. In such matches, a team that is behind cannot secure a draw as above; if they have scored fewer runs, they have lost the game. A no result, therefore, occurs only when weather conditions stop play before the second team have batted enough overs to have a recalculated target under the Duckworth-Lewis method or other rain rules. In One Day International cricket, one team needs to have faced fewer than 20 overs (of the allotted 50 for a match) for a match to be a no result. In Twenty20, the threshold is 5 overs of the allotted 20.
  • Abandoned - A match can be "abandoned" if weather or other conditions prevent any play from occurring at all. If the bowler of the first over of play has not started his/her runup when the officials decide to abandon play then the result is termed 'abandoned without a ball being bowled'. Such a game is not included in official statistical records.
Before July 2004, the same result occurred if the toss had been taken but the match was abandoned before a ball was bowled. Since 2004, the International Cricket Council for International matches has decreed that a match where the toss takes place but which is abandoned without a ball being bowled is either a draw or (for a limited-overs match) a no result. Such games are now included in statistical records, counting, for example, as a game played by the teams and nominated players.[1]


As per the Result (cricket) the result should be Match abandoned, I checked few ongoing series and also past Cricket World Cup tournaments and few Cricket leagues, its just Match abandoned expert in the 2015 ICC World Twenty20 Qualifier. @Joseph2302, Bluebird207, Harrias, PeeJay2K3, and Blackhole78: can you help on this discussion again please.
So many user told that result was Match Abandoned, Lugunts not accepted that.

Thank You... Srinu (talk) 07:46, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Lugnuts: I've be bold to change and place the result status to Match Abandoned, which one has toss not taken due to rain. Srinu (talk) 10:58, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You need more of a consensus than that, sorry. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 10:59, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Lugnuts: How many user told that result will be Match Abandoned. Can you tell me Please. Srinu Talk 11:08, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Lugnuts: can you tell me, what should I did to change result status. Srinu Talk 11:37, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No result is correct. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 11:59, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Why did you mentioned Groundhog Day (film) to No result is correct. No result is went wrong for few matches. Its default to know the result is the No result/Abandoned with that No result at all. Have see the past/current tours and tournament or leagues. At all use No result and Abandoned to know easily. Srinu Talk 12:13, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No result is correct. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 12:35, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Is there any one can explain to Lugnuts and me which one will be corrected with more patients. Thanking You - Srinu (Talk | contrib) 17:06, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Lugnuts: what you say, Please answer. please don't quite silent.
No result: means it has a play and can't determined the result in cricket when all overs can't bowl. Also can't determined as per D/L Method (Taking Toss is starting of the Play)
Abandoned: means it has no play and No result in cricket.

Can say your opinion Please? Srinu (Talk | contrib) 15:29, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Srinu's statement for result. Narahari23 (talk) 09:50, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Reference

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  1. ^ "Toss to signify start of a match". Rediff.com. July 9, 2004. Retrieved April 4, 2015.