Talk:2010 Alabama Crimson Tide football team

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The current consensus is that college schedules for seasons beyond the 2009 season do not presently warrant their own articles, per discussion here and here. The only verifiable information represented on the page was the schedule, which has been added to the main page. The coaching staff can always change after the upcoming season, and should not be presented in the article. Take that out, and the article is nothing more than a football schedule, which at the present does not warrant its own article.CH52584 (talk) 05:21, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Schedule Template

I put the schedule in a template for all the SEC teams, because they are being duplicated at least on the 2010 SEC page and on each team page. By editing the template, you update it in both places in once, less up keep!

Simply Search for the template name (in this case it is Template:2010_Alabama_Football_Schedule and update the schedule there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.240.26.237 (talk) 01:52, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Harrias (talk • contribs • count) 10:42, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll read through the article and make my initials comments over the next few days. Harrias ^talk 10:42, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Overall

No dab links
Tana Patrick and Kenny Bell image is missing alt text, as is the logo at the top: all other images have alt text.

Alt texts added.

Ref 161 "10 Alabama, Auburn players get combine invite" isn't working for me.

Reference fixed.

Lead

"preseason No. 1 team" – I'd prefer this to be written out "preseason number one team".

Done.

"with a 4–3 record" – This needs explaining for laypeople: in the UK this sort of notation isn't used at all, so someone reading it probably wouldn't know what it meant. I would suggest a note on the first use.

I reworded this a bit to clarify wins and losses for their record.

"However, Alabama closed the regular season with a 4–3 record and losses to South Carolina, LSU and Auburn in the Iron Bowl and finished fourth in the Western Division." – This whole sentence doesn't read right at all, I'm not quite sure what it is trying to say, particularly the middle bit "and losses to South Carolina, LSU and Auburn in the Iron Bowl and"

Again, I worked to clarify this. Please let me know if it makes more sense now.

"compete in the Capitol One Bowl" – Earlier you spelt this "Capital"

Fixed.

Before the season

I don't like this "No. # Team" thing at all: For one thing, there is no explanation of what it really means, and for another, it just looks clunky. Also, why do some teams have it (Virginia Tech, Ole Miss) but not others (Tennessee, Auburn)

I tried as best I could by linking to the 2009 NCAA Division I FBS football rankings article and removing those which did not have a ranking at the time of their contest. If this is not sufficient, please let me know and I can work on elaborating on rankings a bit more.

What are Rivals and Scout? This needs explaining. And I would suggest again that there is a better way of phrasing this, rather than just putting "No. #"

Clarified and rewrote the sentences in question.

"the Crimson team defeated the White team" – who are the Crimson team and the White team?

Clarified.

Schedule

In the table, you mark the Ole Miss game with a dagger to signify "Homecoming", but no explanation of what that means is provided. Also, per WP:ACCESS, use a template {{dagger}} so that screen-readers can pick up the dagger.

I included a sentence in the first paragraph of the section noting and wikilinkng to homecoming and added {{dagger}} to the template.

No problem with the use of rankings in this table: but again, why do some teams have then and other teams do not? Also, I assume the Rank column refers to Alabama's ranking at the time? This could use explaining.

In major college football, the ranking system only goes from 1 to 25, with others teams outside the top 25 recognized as "receiving votes" only. The teams that do not have a ranking were not ranked in the top 25 the week they played Alabama, those who did were. A comprehensive article of the rankings during the season can be found at the 2010 NCAA Division I FBS football rankings article. The "Rank" column is indeed for Alabama, but to change that I will need to discuss that with WP:CF as it is part of a template that is utilized across the project.

Coaching staff

"Head coach Nick Saban entered his fourth year as Bama's head coach for the 2010 season." – Avoid using nicknames for the team in the article: stick to either Alabama or Crimson Tide.

Done.

Game notes
General

A lot of the Game starts in the infoboxes you use in this section disagree with the time in the table above: these should really agree.

Good catch! Fixed.

Ditto above for use of "Bama" here.

Done.

I'll come back to this review later, but invite your responses on these comments in the meantime. Nice article overall, not too many tweaks to get it to GA status I think! Harrias ^talk 09:52, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking a look at this! I will work to address all of them over the next few days and message you when I am done. Cheers! Patriarca12 (talk) 02:21, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The first set of comments have been addressed. Thanks again for looking at this, and please let me know what else needs fixing. Cheers! Patriarca12 (talk) 23:39, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay: I've been pretty busy outside of Wikipedia. Thanks for your work so far on the article, your changes mostly look good. To continue:

Game notes

"run to cap an 8 play, 71 yard drive." – I guess there isn't really another way of saying this, but it is a bit jargonny for a layperson to follow. Also, 71-yard should be hyphenated, as you do in most subsequent usages: look through the rest of the section and make this consistent too.

Fixed and went through the remaining game notes to make similar changes as suggested.

After the season

I'm a little confused at the fact that Mark Barron and Dont'a Hightower (to name two I've noticed, there might be more) are not in the depth chart: is there a reason for this?

Not sure what happened there, but the depth chart has been fixed.

Also, to go back to the lead, you still have the following: "They finished the season with a record of 10–3 (5–3 in the SEC)" which doesn't explain what a 10–3 record means.

Fixed

Otherwise, the article looks pretty good: I'd recommend cutting down on the jargon where possible throughout but that is probably unavoidable in an article like this. I'll check back once you've addressed these remaining points. Harrias ^talk 16:36, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have addressed all of your comments as best I can to this point. Please let me know what else you see that may need amending and thanks again for taking a look at this! Patriarca12 (talk) 00:46, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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