Talk:2009 Messina floods and mudslides

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Sections needed

The article needs to be broken up into sections before it becomes too unwieldy.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:28, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Name change

I think that perhaps the name of the article should be 2009 Messina floods and mudslides. It's less cumbersome. What do the other editors think about my proposal?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 04:24, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with 2009 Messina floods and mudslides --Francesco Betti Sorbelli (talk) 07:13, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'll be bold and change it.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:20, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Palermo?

The current lede includes "affecting other parts of northeastern Sicily in Italy, including the capital Palermo". Palermo is not in northeast Sicily. I will not alter this as I am not sure whether "northeast" should be replaced with "north", or Palermo should be removed. Bazza (talk) 12:20, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cosa Nostra?

I read that "It was thought the Cosa Nostra were responsible", along with a reference to an article from Daily Telegraph, in which was stated that "...the disaster had been worsened by years of deforestation and illegal building of houses and apartment blocks, some of it linked to Sicily's Cosa Nostra mafia." I don't see in this sentence any direct connection between the owning of some buildings by Mafia and the flooding that destroyed a lot of houses. Maybe if they belonged to honest citizens they wouldn't be destroyed? I think that this sentence in this page is a nonsense, a misunderstanding of the referenced article. And IMHO I think that Mr. Squires put in his article a reference to Cosa Nostra only because this tragedy happened in Sicily, I didn't heard the mafia connection in any other news I read so far. But this isn't the right place to talk about it... -- Von Vikken (talk) 13:14, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. The sentence in the article reads as if the Mafia were directly responsible for the disaster itself which of course is patent nonsense. IMO, I think the sentence should be removed and perhaps replaced with a reference to the deforestation of the hills, partially as a result of a series of destructive brush fires, and the sub-standard construction of the houses in a high risk zone.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:19, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done -- Von Vikken (talk) 18:41, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is no longer a current event

Seeing as the disaster happened well over a month ago, it is no longer a current event and the tenses in the article need to reflect this.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:44, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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