Talk:2008 Atlantic hurricane season/Archive 1

Continuing the tradition: I predict the Panthers will come in at least second in the NFC South, and snag a wildcard. --Golbez (talk) 19:35, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Nah. Juliancolton (talk) 20:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

My predictions worked a few years ago :( --Golbez (talk) 21:37, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

But what about the Hurricanes? 147.70.242.40 (talk) 16:26, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Or the Miami Hurricanes for that matter... Cryomaniac (talk)@ —Preceding comment was added at 00:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

'Calling for'

I just amended the phrase 'calling for' in the description of one of the forecasts to 'predicting'. It's just been reverted, on the basis that this is standard usage in weather forecasting. This may be the case, but I've never heard it before. I submit that (1) to a non-specialist user, 'calling for' comes across as a synonym for 'requesting' or 'demanding', not 'predicting'; (2) that 'calling for' in weather forecasting may be US-specific, although I am unsure; and (3) that I feel on balance that a non-specialist user will find 'calling for' unhelpfully opaque. I welcome feedback, as I don't want to get into a cycle of reversion on the main page. AlexTiefling (talk) 10:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello there. I have no strong opinion either way. The downside of using "predicting" is the term was just used in the previous sentence. I thus changed it to "anticipating", which I believe would be a more appropriate word. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Might I please suggest that those worried about excessively repeating the same word please read up on inelegant variation. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 03:31, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Ophelia ?

Is Ophelia the first storm of the season ? http://www.weather.gov/view/national.php?prod=HUR http://twitter.com/BreakingNewsOn/statuses/809842957 . Why does its name is not beginning by a A ? 24.203.1.52 (talk) 02:52, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

That sounds like a typo. The timestamp of the advisory says September 13, 2008, and while weather forecasting models are becoming more reliable, we can't predict storms four months in advice. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 02:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

And what about the second message ? 0300Z TUE MAY 12 2008 : this doesn't look like typo... Thanks for your answer 24.203.1.52 (talk) 03:00, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

That's still really weird, because it is pretty much indicating that it will land near North Carolina, similar to what 2005's Ophelia did. The NHC might have sent out a stale advisory by accident, because the only thing near the area is an old low-pressure area moving away from the U.S. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 03:05, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It was probably just a test message. The message was on the NHC home page for a few hours at most. There is no need to worry. There is no tropical cyclone in the western Atlantic Ocean right now, and if there was one, it wouldn't be called Ophelia, since that letter is far into the season and it wouldn't be re-used until 2011. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:07, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your explanations ! I think I will send this to "BreakingNewsOn" on twitter, they did not check their sources... 24.203.1.52 (talk) 03:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

The National Hurricane Center accidentally issued a statement to the press and public warning that a hurricane would hit North Carolina. ( http://twitter.com/BreakingNewsOn/statuses/809874674 ) 24.203.1.52 (talk) 03:20, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

While that was funny, I'd love to see the same happen on NHCs end with a specific different hurricane..."Ahhh good morning Franklin and what ha...EPSILON IS STILL ACTIVE?!?" Yeah, my sense of humor is odd, but its still worth seeing in my book. Hurricane Angel Saki (talk) 04:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

On September 13, 2005, Tropical Storm Ophelia was strengthening and heading for North Carolina. I think that's where the typo came from. -- HurricaneERIC - Class of '08: XVII Maius MMVIII 03:25, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Question about names

The NHC says in its first discussion about Arthur "THIS SYSTEM IS NOT DESIGNATED TROPICAL STORM ALMA BECAUSE THE SURFACE CENTER OF ALMA DISSIPATED OVER THE HIGH TERRAIN OF CENTRAL AMERICA YESTERDAY." I thought that when system survived from the Atlantic to the Pacific they were renamed (i.e. Hurricane Joan-Miriam 1988)? So, even if it had survived intact across Central America, wouldn't it have gotten a new name anyway? Is this no longer the case? Tfelts 18:40 31 May 2008 (UTC)

If Alma had remained at least a tropical depression all the way across, since 2001 the storm names are maintained. However, Alma's circulation dissipated (it became a tropical low) and reformed, hence Arthur and not Alma. CrazyC83 (talk) 18:44, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

If NHC did not adhere so strictly to the concept of well-defined circulation center, this would still be Alma. It is clearly the same low pressure area. Luckily (or misfortunately from where you sit) this concept of well-defined circulation cannot be carried out for tropical cyclones of past years, especially prior to reconaissance. Thegreatdr (talk) 18:56, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Does this mean that if Alma had not dissipated, the Atlantic Hurricane Season would still have one storm? I also wonder how many storms like these went uncounted through most of the 20th century.Autkm (talk) 04:17, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

If Alma's well-defined circulation had not dissipated over central America, and it retained the name Alma in the Caribbean, then it still would have counted as a tropical cyclone in the Atlantic basin. Thegreatdr (talk) 17:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Arthur

If (No When) Arthur becomes a TD, will it have a operational ACE of 0 because the predictions on Storm2k say that it will stay a TD until landfall in Mexico. --67.87.64.153 (talk) 19:12, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

If it was downgraded at 5 pm it would have, but it was held as a tropical storm. CrazyC83 (talk) 20:49, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Who's gonna write this storm's main article? If no one else has volunteered, I will. TheNobleSith (talk) 02:41, 1 June 2008 (UTC)