Talk:1999 FA Cup final/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: REDMAN 2019 (talk · contribs) 18:17, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I will take a look at this one. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 18:17, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Background

Link penalty shoot-out.
- Done – Pee Jay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Route to the final

Are the multiple links to various rivalry's needed? I notice this was in the last GA review but was not fixed.
- I think if we're going to refer to Liverpool and Arsenal as Manchester United's rivals and we have articles about those rivalries, we should link to those articles. – Pee Jay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"before Paul Scholes was sent off himself for Manchester United." -> with Paul Scholes being sent off for Manchester United.
- I disagree with this one. Di Matteo was sent off for a challenge on Scholes, so the "himself" refers back to Scholes being the victim of the previous tackle. The text didn't mention this, however, so I've reworded it. – Pee Jay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"As per tradition, the semi-finals were played at neutral venues" No source to back this up.
- Done – Pee Jay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"when Phil Neville made a tired challenge on Ray Parlour inside the penalty area" The word "tired" can be dropped here.
- Changed "tired" to "rash" as that was the word used in the source. – Pee Jay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"Bergkamp stepped up to take the penalty, but Peter Schmeichel guessed the direction of his kick correctly and made the save." -> but Schmeichel saved Bergkamp's penalty to keep the scores level. Would read better.
- I'm not sure I agree. Sure, your version is shorter, but a goalkeeper can make a save without diving the right way. – Pee Jay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Might want to change the word "net" to "goal" just after Giggs scores.
- "The roof of the net" is a common phrase, so I don't think we should change this. – Pee Jay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-match

"Roy Keane and Paul Scholes were suspended for that match, so they were paired in central midfield" I'm assuming this is Manchester confirming their midfield lineup for the Champions League final. If so, it needs a supporting ref.
- I don't understand what you mean. I agree it probably needs a ref, but not for the reason you've mentioned. – PeeJay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'm asking weather the text is referring to Manchester's UCL final lineup. Guessing that since the pair weren't able to play in the cup final, they were assured a place in the team for the next game. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 12:07, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    - @REDMAN 2019: Keane and Scholes were suspended for the UCL final, so they played in the FA Cup final. I added a source confirming that to be true. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 14:41, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Match

"Meanwhile, Newcastle had made their game plan clear; tackles from" -> While violent tackles from. Shorter and sounds less like a journalists report.
- I've taken out the bit about Newcastle's game plan, but "violent" sounds like an opinion we can't justify. – Pee Jay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
" but while Hamann was able to continue with a dead leg" this reads like it was Hamann who was on the receiving end of the tackle when he was the one committing it.
- I'm not sure it does. If people read the full sentence, they'll get it. – Pee Jay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sheringham was brought on for Keane. I feel that this could do with some more info given that Ferguson was replacing a centre midfielder with a centre forward who would go on to score and be man of the match.
- What would you suggest we say? – Pee Jay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Post-match

The ^{[citation needed]} tag needs to be got rid of.
- I've commented it out. – Pee Jay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy

Is this section nessercery? It comprises of one sentence and could easily be merged into either the lead of the "Post-match" section.
- Done. – Pee Jay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

Ref 5 needs a archive url as the page no longer exists at the website.
- Done. – Pee Jay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 8 and 10 have a similar problem and needs replacing.
- The website these refs came from was originally coded in Flash. It is in the process of being recoded in HTML 5, but it may be some time before that happens. – Pee Jay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

General

There are several instances of WP:SEAOFBLUE here, they should be sorted if possible.
- I've done as much as I can. – Pee Jay 11:37, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

The article needs a bit more clean-up and several references need replacing or archiving but I think that this can be brought to GA status once these matters have been dealt with. Putting on hold until those have been fixed. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 19:28, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Since you have limited contributions to the article, I suggest contacting PeeJay as he has done most of the work on the article this past year and he may be able to provide advice or assistance. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 19:32, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@REDMAN 2019: Okay. I will see what we can do together. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 00:45, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article is in better shape now and after the last issue with the pre-match team selection is sorted I will be happy to pass this. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 12:12, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@KingSkyLord and PeeJay: I feel this now meets the GA criteria and am passing it accordingly. Congrats REDMAN 2019 (talk) 17:07, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]