Talk:1983 Oregon State vs. Oregon football game

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Did you know... that the 1983 Oregon State vs. Oregon football game (often referred to as "The Toilet Bowl") was the last NCAA Division I college football game to end in a scoreless tie?

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The weather at the game helps explain a lot of the game itself. In fall 1983, the 1982-1983 el nino (along with the el nino of 1997-1998, one of the two strongest in history) was winding down. A system set itself up to the Southwest of Oregon in late October that created a pineapple express system, taking Hawaii's weather and funneling it into Oregon. That system basically stayed in place until early December. The result was conditions were warmer, wetter, and windier than normal

November 19, 1983 was the windiest day of the year, both for highest sustained wind, 29 mph, and highest wind gust, 39 mph. weatherspark.com/history/30206/1983/Eugene-Oregon-United-States November 19, 1983 was the third-wettest day of the year precipitation-wise but the second wettest, in that there was 22 hours of rain. weatherspark.com/history/30206/1983/Eugene-Oregon-United-States Those two hours that it did not rain were 8:00 and 9:00 p.m., after the game ended. http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KEUG/1983/11/19/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA The wind was at least 16 mph throughout the game with gusts as high as 31 mph. http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KEUG/1983/11/19/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA It began raining on October 29, 1983. http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KEUG/1983/10/19/MonthlyHistory.html It continued raining (i.e. either precipitation was noted or rain was noted) until November 25, 1983. http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KEUG/1983/11/19/MonthlyHistory.html#calendar

I suspect, but I do not know, that November 1983 was the wettest November on record. 13.047" of rain fell, compared to the median rainfall of 6.039". That means that the rainfall in November was more than double what you would typically expect.

November 19, 1983 was the second rainiest day of the year, but the first was in February during the height of the 1982-1983 el nino and was highly atypical.

Overall, the wind appears to have peaked before the game started and slowly died out as the game went along. Still the game was played with a consistent rain and a steady 16 mph wind at all times from the south, south southwest, or southwest with gusts as high as 31 mph, miserable conditions for football.Wilkyisdashiznit (talk) 17:35, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is cool info. I'm a little wary of saying November 19 was the "windiest" day--it just had the day with the single strongest gust. We don't have to say that it was the windiest/wettest/etc. if the evidence doesn't really support it. But by all means, expand this part to put more in about the conditions, in the context of the game.

With regard to your additions about team records, there is murky information. We definitely need to add cited information about the probation to the existing 1980 Oregon Ducks football team and 1979 Oregon Ducks football team articles, but I don't think it belongs here, and I get conflicting information about whether any 1979 games are still considered forfeited. The official Duck records don't indicate that (not that that means a lot), and neither does this page. Some sites allude to the fact that all games were forfeited and some say just a few (the games where an ineligible player played). We need more info on the forfeits, but I'm not sure it belongs in this article anyway: it comes across as Duck-bashing and doesn't really add anything. How did the probation affect this game? --Esprqii (talk) 21:44, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]