Talk:1976 British Isles heatwave

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Moved, 10 August 2023, from 1976 British Isles heat wave to 1976 British Isles heatwave, see discussion.
Not moved, 6 August 2024, from 1976 British Isles heat wave to 1976 United Kingdom heatwave, see discussion.

Standpipes

What is meant by "standpipes were in the streets"? The article on standpipes has been disambiguated into two distinct definitions: firefighting and water tower. Is this one of those? Is there a third definition, as this doesn't seem to fit either. Maybe this was meant to read "hydrants were open in the streets" due to the heat, causing an additional loss of water pressure? Someone with more knowledge of the heat wave should make the change.Pat 16:43, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As there were dometic water restrictions in the height of the drought, (water to homes was cut of for several hours a day) Standpipes, which were basically public water taps erected in the streets connected to mains water, were erected in many of the worst hit areas of drought so the general public could access drinking water by filling containers and taking them home to use. 86.1.186.25 (talk) 08:26, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

StandPipe in the street

the definition of standpipe used in this article is "Standpipe (street)"

As there were dometic water restrictions in the height of the drought, (water to homes was cut of for several hours a day) Standpipes, which were basically public water taps erected in the streets connected to mains water, were erected in many of the worst hit areas of drought so the general public could access drinking water by filling containers and taking them home to use.

Hurn Park and New Forest

There seems to be a Hurn Park in both Dorset and Hampshire. The bbc weather article places the forest fire in Dorset but in the past i have read that the 50,000 tree fire was in the New Forest which is also in Hampshire. Overlapping forests? Can anyone clear this up? cheers. maxrspct ping me 22:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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--JeffGBot (talk) 21:41, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I edited the sentence in order to improve upon the clarity of the meaning.

It was one of the driest, sunniest and warmest summers (June/July/August) in the 20th century, although 1995 now regarded as the driest.

I edited the sentence above in order to improve upon the clarity of the meaning.TheEcumenicalTheologicalSeminary (talk) 03:52, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It was one of the driest, sunniest and warmest summers (June/July/August) in the 20th century, although 1995 is now regarded as the driest. I further edited the sentence to improve grammar.TheEcumenicalTheologicalSeminary (talk) 03:55, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But the sentence originally said: "It was easily the driest, sunniest and warmest summer (June/July/August) in the 20th century (at this date, though 1995 now regarded as the driest)." It didn't say "one of". So it seems to me that you haven't clarified the meaning so much as changed it. How about rewording the sentence as: "It was the sunniest and warmest summer (June/July/August) of the twentieth century, and only the summer of 1995 was drier." JH (talk page) 09:45, 18 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Information about 1976 heatwave (5 free views in New York times without subscription)^[1] Near end of June the peak temperature in County Offaly.^[2]

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Mobile mundo (talk) 18:12, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In England

I remember 1975-1976 :: never before had I known so much incinerator-like weather, and on my motorcycle the wind in my face was like the breath from a furnace. My garden lawn went brown. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:38, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ladybower Reservoir

The sentence "Ladybower reservoir in Derbyshire dried out and revealed the flooded villages of Ashopton and Derwent, it was possible to make out the village layout and garden walls" is not completely accurate. The village of Ashopton has never been revealed since the reservoir was filled as it's too far down in a much deeper part of the reservoir; but the village of Derwent has been uncovered several times. (source - I was there in 1976, and many times since) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C6:7B85:FC01:6128:34E5:2335:4E3B (talk) 12:16, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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United Kingdom

This article, like other articles on so-called "British Isles heatwaves" focus almost entirely on the United Kingdom. There's nothing wrong with that, but it pushes the logical thought should this page not be titled "1976 United Kingdom heatwave"?

Ireland is mentioned in only one sentence. Even the section on "Government response" is entirely UK by default. It makes sense to rename this page, and move the one sentence on County Offally to the European page. Wikiejd2 (talk) 17:19, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the reaction to the move request below is incredibly disappointing. I believe it shows that bias from overrepresented countries affects the accuracy.

There is absolutely no logical reason to include Ireland in this article, given that there is already a European article. Ireland is not the fifth country of the United Kingdom. Wikiejd2 (talk) 16:21, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 6 August 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Bobby Cohn (talk) 17:40, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1976 British Isles heatwave → 1976 United Kingdom heatwave – This article, like other articles on so-called "British Isles heatwaves" focus almost entirely on the United Kingdom. There's nothing wrong with that, but it pushes the logical thought should this page not be titled "1976 United Kingdom heatwave"?

Ireland is mentioned in only one sentence. The page is entirely about effects on the United Kingdom. Even the section on "Government response" is entirely UK by default, as if Ireland had no government response. It makes sense to rename this page, and move the one sentence on County Offaly to the European page for 1976.

Copying my comment from above on this talk page. Thank you. Wikiejd2 (talk) 17:25, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose for accuracy. The article can be expanded if there's more about Ireland. The fact it hasn't been as yet is irrelevant. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:49, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would disagree that it is accurate. It's an article about the United Kingdom, and the British government's response. In 1976, there was a heatwave all over Europe, but again it seems to be particularly popular in British historical memory. Why include Ireland as an addendum to an article about a heatwave that was notable in the UK? Wikiejd2 (talk) 12:27, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You do know that part of the island of Ireland is also part of the UK? -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The heatwave was also in Ireland, and covered all of the British Isles. Just because it's not already fully covered in the article just means it hasn't been written yet it can easily be expanded and there must be plenty of coverage. Remember articles are not finished. Canterbury Tail talk 13:24, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The title is accurate, it doesn't need a name change. Waqar💬 19:07, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. If the heatwave also affected Ireland, the solution would be to expand the content on this topic, not to move the article. UnspokenPassion (talk) 17:45, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

[1] ttps://www.nytimes.com/1995/07/02/world/the-biggest-heat-wave-in-years-stuns-irish.html

[2] ttps://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/heatwave-nostalgia-ireland-s-sizzling-summer-of-1976-1.3556756

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