Talk:1970 NBA expansion draft

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the 1970 NBA expansion draft article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

1970 NBA expansion draft is a featured list, which means it has been identified as one of the best lists produced by the Wikipedia community. If you can update or improve it, please do so.

This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured list on May 10, 2024.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
March 23, 2024	Featured list candidate	Promoted

Lists Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Lists, an attempt to structure and organize all list pages on Wikipedia. If you wish to help, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.ListsWikipedia:WikiProject ListsTemplate:WikiProject ListsList articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

National Basketball Association: Cleveland Cavaliers Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject National Basketball Association, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the NBA on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.National Basketball AssociationWikipedia:WikiProject National Basketball AssociationTemplate:WikiProject National Basketball AssociationNBA articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by Cleveland Cavaliers task force.

Cleveland Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of the WikiProject Cleveland, the scope of which includes Cleveland and the Greater Cleveland Area. If you would like to join us, please visit the project page; if you have any questions, please consult the FAQ.ClevelandWikipedia:WikiProject ClevelandTemplate:WikiProject ClevelandCleveland articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

New York (state): Western NY Low‑importance

	New York (state) portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject New York (state), a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. state of New York on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.New York (state)Wikipedia:WikiProject New York (state)Template:WikiProject New York (state)New York (state) articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Western New York (assessed as Low-importance).

Oregon Low‑importance

	Oregon portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Oregon, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. state of Oregon on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.OregonWikipedia:WikiProject OregonTemplate:WikiProject OregonOregon articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
The current collaborations of the month are Women's History Month: Create or improve articles for women listed at Oregon Women of Achievement (modern) or Women of the West, Oregon chapter (historical).

United States Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Dead link

During several automated bot runs the following external link was found to be unavailable. Please check if the link is in fact down and fix or remove it in that case!

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=elghAAAAIBAJ&sjid=0YUFAAAAIBAJ&pg=4500,2162510
- In 1970 NBA Expansion Draft on 2011-05-25 04:08:45, 404 Not Found
- In 1970 NBA Expansion Draft on 2011-06-06 14:34:27, 404 Not Found

--JeffGBot (talk) 14:34, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 4 external links on 1970 NBA Expansion Draft. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 11:50, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

revert

At this edit, Editor ZooBlazer reverted my edit with the edit summary URL status is necessary.

Not true. |url-status=dead is not necessary as demonstrated by these examples:

with |url-status=dead:
{{cite web |title=Title |url=//example.com |archive-url=//archive.org |archive-date=2024-01-31 |url-status=dead}}
"Title". Archived from the original on 2024-01-31.
without |url-status=dead:
{{cite web |title=Title |url=//example.com |archive-url=//archive.org |archive-date=2024-01-31}}
"Title". Archived from the original on 2024-01-31.

In both of these examples, the rendering is exactly the same so |url-status=dead is not necessary when the url in |url= is dead.

When the url in |url= is live, is unfit, is usurped, then |url-status= is necessary. Including |url-status=dead in a cs1|2 template just adds clutter to the wikitext; don't do that.

My edit should be restored primarily because of the reference (permalink) that Editor ZooBlazer rebroke when reverting my edit. As I write this, that reference (permalink) is still broken.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:55, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Trappist the monk The refs are marked dead because they lead to error pages as they are all over 10 years old and things have changed with the links/sites in that time. It makes the archive link the default link instead so people can actually read what the website says. -- ZooBlazer 16:55, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you not look at my examples? In both of my examples, |title=Title is linked by |archive-url=//archive.org regardless of the presence or absence of |url-status=dead; clicking "Title" in the examples takes you to //archive.org.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 17:14, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do what you want, but the URL status is just going to get added back eventually by an editor or bot as it's normally a main part of archived refs. -- ZooBlazer 17:22, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I did. This time though, I looked at each of the urls that had been marked dead. Some are in fact dead; others are not. Those that aren't dead, I changed to |url-status=deviated to indicate that the original source is live but has been changed in some way.

And I fixed your broken reference (diff).

—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:37, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]