Talk:1961–62 Ipswich Town F.C. season

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Did you know... that Ipswich Town won the Football League First Division in their 1961–62 season having been promoted from the Second Division the previous season?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 20:20, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Ipswich Town won the Football League First Division in the 1961–62 season having been promoted from the Second Division the previous season?

Reviewed: 2008 FA Cup Final
Comment: On a word count basis, Jan 6: 713 words, Jan 11: 3572 words.

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 13:23, 11 January 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Hi The Rambling Man, review follows: 5x expansion in character count confirmed 6 to 11 January; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I am no expert on reliable sources for football articles but those used appear to pass the mark (I trust this editor who has put many football articles through GAN, FAC, FLC etc.); I don't have access to some of the newspaper articles but I did a spot check on a random samples of sources and found no concerns with overly close paraphrasing; hook is interesting (something could be made of the fact that they were the first to do so since Preston in 1889 but that would lengthen the hook and I am happy to go with the nominator's preference) and mentioned in the article; AGF as I don't have access access to Bowler (2013) but the hook fact is readily verifiable elsewhere; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks good to me - Dumelow (talk) 06:56, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Dumelow - the "Preston" thing is all very well but they won it on the first time of asking because it was the first season ever, so it's not quite the same thing. I prefer, especially in the context of the modern game and the huge gulf between Premier League and Championship, to recognise that "back in the day" teams coming up from the second division were competitive, to the point of being champions. Cheers for the review, much appreciated. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:21, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, I missed the "inaugural" part in the article. We could perhaps says that Ipswich were the first to achieve this but, as previous, I have no issues with how it is currently written - Dumelow (talk) 08:24, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Kosack (talk · contribs) 12:29, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I do enjoy a season article and they're extremely underused, so I'm glad to pick this one up. Review coming as soon as possible. Kosack (talk) 12:29, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Funny you should say that, I'm starting to see a bit of a purge on season articles...! I think this one is safe though, somewhat notable! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:31, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One of the many perils of falling out of the Football League it seems. Here's my review:

Lead

The 73rd season part doesn't appear to be sourced anywhere, might be worth adding to the background section maybe?
Well that's off to a good start! I don't think I can find an explicit reference for it, it's just the running total from Ipswich's first competitive season in 1878. 84 seasons but 11 totally abandoned/annulled because of war. Happy to reword I guess. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:51, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think a reword is necessary, I've used the format myself so I wouldn't want to see that. Even a basic founding date ref would probably suffice, ref 1 from History of Ipswich Town F.C. would likely work. It has the founding date and briefly explains the breaks for the war, I think a bit of basic maths is generally allowed after that. Kosack (talk) 22:09, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Okay cool, I'll get onto it once I've got breakfast into the kids. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 22:13, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
A couple of links could be added here, promotion to Promotion and relegation, previous season to the 60-61 article and replay to Replay (sports).
"in the fourth round after losing heavily to Blackburn Rovers in the fourth round", fourth round is mentioned twice here.

August to October

"first ever match in them top flight", typo here.
"including two goals from Phillips", full name and link for Phillips?
You use 12th in the last sentence here, but twelfth in the lead. Is there a reason for the difference?
No link for Roy Bailey?
Link Hat-trick.

November to January

Full name and link for Stephenson?
Aston Villa are mentioned for the first time here but not linked.
"Goals from Stephenson, Moran and the fit-again Leadbetter secured a 2–0 win", three scorers but only two goals?
Worth linking own goal.

February to April

Probably worth linking penalty to Penalty kick (association football).
Filbert Street is repeat linked here.
"where they faced a Nottingham Forest who had", should that be Forest side? It doesn't seem to read quite right to me at the moment.
"The team who were the first", is the "who" necessary here, it doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the sentence?

League Cup

If a link is added for Roy Bailey as noted above, the one here can be dropped.
Same as above with Aston Villa.

Players

I may be wrong, but would the table here not require scope rows/cols?

Post-season

"the club's first foray into European football. The club defeated Maltese champions Floriana 14–1 in the preliminary round, with Ray Crawford scoring seven across the two ties. The Suffolk club", three uses of club in quick succession, perhaps swap one out for slightly less repitition?
Last sentence needs a ref adding.

References

Might be worth linking RSSSF to maintain the link style of the other refs.
Other than that, the refs here are very well formatted and a quick spot check on a few comes back fine.

Great stuff, nothing much to complain about. Placed on hold while these are addressed. Kosack (talk) 20:01, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kosack cheers, much appreciated. If you don't mind I'll get to these tomorrow. Thanks for the review. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:05, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, no rush. Kosack (talk) 20:07, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kosack I think I've addressed all your comments, thanks for taking a look! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:45, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All my comments have been suitably addressed. Happy to promote, nice work. Kosack (talk) 15:25, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]