Talk:1918 protest in Zagreb/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Buidhe (talk · contribs) 07:15, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

A few years ago I copyedited the article. I've looked at it again and have the following comments:

• "Perceiving them unreliable, authorities first disbanded the two regiments and later all former Austro-Hungarian units based in the new state."
  • The National Council had (at least formal) command over all former Austro-Hungarian units based in the State/Kingdom of SHS. (T)
• "The period also saw a mutiny in Požega, and a clash in nearby Orahovica,[7] where parts of two regiments mutinied" clumsy sentence . It's unclear whether the two regiments are in Orahovica or one of them is at Pozega. Also, could possibly be more concisely phrased as "Parts of two regiments mutinied separately in Pozega and nearby Orahovica"
  • Both regiments referenced in the sentence were found in Orahovica. One was Dalmatian, the other Bohemian, so I assume (parts of) the regiments were passing through the town since none of the two would be based in the region, let alone such a small town. Unfortunately the sources do not elaborate. (T)
• "offering disenchanted people and ignored former Austro-Hungarian officers a chance to redeem themselves for their perceived failures" unclear if this refers to the "culture of defeat" or the Frankist faction, needs rephrase
  • Added a bit of explanation to clarify. (T)
• "the October–November unrest set republicanism as their ultimate political objective" I think you mean that those engaging in unrest named republicanism as their goal, but it needs a rephrase
  • Correct. Broken up in two sentences and edited for better clarity. (T)
• "It remains unclear if the soldiers were protesting"
  • Attributed this and the following sentence. Very little is directly stated about exact motivation of the soldiers, except that they marched from their barracks to the square. (T)
• "There were erroneous reports of machine gun fire" this is more confusing than useful, whose reports? And how do we know they were erroneous?
  • That's an account given by Rudolf Horvat more than 20 years after the event. None of the accounts of soldiers match up with Horvat's description - e.g. his account places a machine gun behind backs of soldiers taking cover behind Jelačić monument, firing at those soldiers (from a distance of about 100 metres) none of whom noticed that machine gun - which would be odd to say the least. Gabelica & Matković source explicity say that Horvat is wrong. (T)
• "The 25th and the 53rd regiments were disbanded"
  • The National Council did this. Clarified in the lede as well. (T)
• "The Ban Jelačić Square was cleared of all monuments by 1947, including the equestrian monument to Josip Jelačić" presumably by the Communist government but this should be stated explicitly and in active voice
  • Done. (T)
• "A plaque was placed"
  • Added information: it was a WW2 veteran association "Hrvatski domobran". There is a hrwiki page on the association so I added an interwiki link to that. Not sure if more explanation is needed - there are (at least) two WW2 veteran associations in Croatia one for former partisans led by the Communist party and one for former WW2 Croatian Home Guard (Hrvatski domobran is/was that one, I don't expect many survivors of either association are around today). To complicate matters an earlier incarnation of the "Home Guard" (domobranstvo) was reserve force in pre-1919 Austro-Hungarian army and the 25th Regiment mentioned by the article was a part of it. There was also "Home Guard" (domobranstvo) as reserve force in 1990s and 2000s in the modern Croatian Army. (T)
• "except Perčić, who was sentenced to six years in prison" presumably he was convicted first, of what?
  • Indeed he was. Added that bit. (T)

Thank you for taking time to take a look at the article. I have made some edits to address your concerns. Could you please review them? --Tomobe03 (talk) 23:40, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

"Thiat led peasants actively involved in the October–November unrest set republicanism as their ultimate political objective." I'm not sure what is meant here, is "thiat" a typo? (t · c) buidhe 01:45, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Other than that, I'm happy with the changes. I have evaluated the criteria and checked some of the sources. (t · c) buidhe 01:47, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Fixed. Yes, that's a typo.--Tomobe03 (talk) 08:00, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

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