Talk:1501 Broadway

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Review: January 23, 2022. (Reviewed version).

A fact from 1501 Broadway appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 December 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that to celebrate the Paramount Building's construction, oxen and lamb were roasted over the ruins of the previous building on the site?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/1501 Broadway.

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The {{Infobox NRHP}} currently used in this article is not suitable because the building is not listed on the National Register of Historic Places. {{Infobox building}} would be a better alternative. Niagara ^{Don't give up the ship} 19:04, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it's being used for convenience, since it's easy with the NRHP template to add the NYC landmark fields, which would not be possible with the building template. Aside from that, it's often the case the NYC landmarks become listed on the NRHP some years later -- not always, but often enough. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:59, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it is possible to add the NYC landmark fields to an Infobox building using {{Designation list}}. It probably not a good to wait until it is listed on the NRHP because it is currently in a hidden, maintenance category caused by the absence of the NRHP reference number. So, it is entirely possible that another editor would attempt to try and fix the problem. Niagara ^{Don't give up the ship} 21:26, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you know how to switch it to the building template and keep the NYC landmark designation, give it a try. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:49, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I re-added the NHRP box and left open the spots in case it does get added. Any concerns/complaints? FriarTuck1981 (talk) 22:34, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Use of the NRHP infobox has some side effects, one of which is adding it to various error categories, such as NRHP infobox needing cleanup if there is no NRHP reference number. I replaced the infobox with a designation list box. Generic1139 (talk) 20:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Theater dismantling?

When the theater in the building was dismantled, what was that space converted to? A 3000+ seat theater isn't exactly a small venue. --RThompson82 (talk) 04:15, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 01:11, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The Paramount Building at 1501 Broadway

... that 1501 Broadway, overlooking New York City's Times Square, was once described as "the greatest shadow that shadows have built"? Source: Mumford, Lewis (December 22, 1926). "Magnified Impotence". The New Republic. 49: 138–140.
- ALT1: ... that the Paramount Building's developers received a marble eagle from Mussolini during the building's construction? Source: "Mussolini Sends Gift to Movie Producers; Famous Players-lasky Receives Eagle From Caesars' Palace for Paramount Building". The New York Times. August 8, 1926.
- ALT2: ... that to celebrate the Paramount Building's construction, oxen and lamb were roasted over the ruins of the previous building on the site? Source: "Broadway Barbecue Is Moved Indoors; Famous Players Abandon Celebration on Times Square Building Site for Fear of Accidents". The New York Times. August 2, 1925.
- ALT3: ... that the Paramount Building was the tallest building in Times Square when it was completed? Source: New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission; Dolkart, Andrew S.; Postal, Matthew A. (2009). Postal, Matthew A. (ed.). Guide to New York City Landmarks (4th ed.). New York: John Wiley & Sons. pp. 90-91

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Russ Island

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 23:12, 18 November 2021 (UTC).[reply]

An impressive expansion by EpicGenius. I was intrigued by the ALT1 hook about Mussolini's eagle — animals always make things more lively. I remember when the King of Sweden was gifted some Lippizaner horses by the Sultan of Brunei... but I digress. Anyway, when I checked, I realized I had misunderstood; it wasn't an animal, it was a marble eagle. I guess hooks aren't supposed to draw people in by misleading them, so it ought surely to say "received a marble eagle from Mussolini". Not as cool, but more factual, and Mussolini is in himself a fine hook character. I'd support that hook. Bishonen | tålk 20:37, 26 November 2021 (UTC).[reply]

@Bishonen: Whoops, that must've been a mistake on my part. I guess it might be more accurate, though slightly less hooky, to say that there was a marble eagle, so I've fixed it now. Thanks for reviewing the nomination. Epicgenius (talk) 04:28, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Bishonen: Sorry, I forgot to ask: was that a general comment or a DYK review? If it was a DYK review, then it can only be promoted if Template:DYKtick or Template:DYKtickAGF is added. If that was a general comment, then no worries. Epicgenius (talk) 14:18, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid it was a general comment. I'm new here, and, while I originally intended to review, I was seriously put off by all the formalia. Bishonen | tålk 15:17, 7 December 2021 (UTC).[reply]

No problem. I will ask someone else to conduct a formal review in that case. This article does not have a full review yet. Epicgenius (talk) 16:58, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gonna take a look later. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:27, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I've taken a look at the article and it meets all of the DYK requirements. A QPQ has also been done here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:58, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay so I'll be assuming good faith for the sources provided since they're either offline or NYT (and I don't want to trigger the paywall). While all of the hooks are suitable, personally I think that ALT2 is the quirkiest hook of the bunch: I mean, who doesn't like a good barbecue? Article is good to go. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:41, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]