Talk:九龍 (disambiguation)

More at Jiulong

Why are there about 10 other things at Jiulong that aren't here? Badagnani (talk) 18:08, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

• I don't know, but they might not all be "nine dragons"--could be in other tones than "jiǔlóng". HkCaGu (talk) 18:39, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  • In this case, we do this for ease of maintenance. If we had to include each single item in Jiulong here, the long list would be entirely duplicated here, and it would be harder to synchronize 九龍 (disambiguation) with Jiulong (disambiguation) all the time. It's OK to just redirect to the other dab page instead.--Endroit (talk) 22:33, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I think we should endeavor to be as complete as possible. Synchronization probably isn't a big concern, as there aren't likely to be new towns established in China with this name in the near future. Badagnani (talk) 22:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I believe the spirit of WP:DAB is to strive for simplicity wherever possible, which means duplication is not encouraged. I asked JHunterJ to comment here as well, because he is more familiar with how things are done at WP:WPDAB.--Endroit (talk) 22:50, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Simplicity is a useful path, but not a goal in particular. IMO, things that are known as 九龍 or its simplified form, and are noted as such in their articles, should be listed here, in order to make things simple for the reader. If someone did enter 九龍 in the search box and hit "Go", but didn't want the Hong Kong area, they'd click through to this dab page, fail to find the Chinese county (for instance), and have to click through to another dab page. (For some reason, this strikes me as contrary to an opinion I've voiced in the past -- if it is, sorry for my confusion.) Other things that are Jiulong but not 九龍 should be listed only there, not here. -- JHunterJ (talk) 10:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry. Having to click 3 more times to reach the desired "九龍" article is indeed too much.

I found two more instances of 九龍/九龙 in Jiulong with existing articles: Jiulong County and Jiulong River. And so I went ahead and added them to the 九龍 dab.--Endroit (talk) 17:09, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Nine Dragons Paper

I was OK with "Nine Dragons Paper" removed from the disambiguation page, but with this many links added now, I think Nine Dragons Paper should be in. Anyone hearing this company's Chinese name (and not reading) for the first time will naturally think it's the regular number nine (九) and not the special number nine (玖), thus creating ambiguity. HkCaGu (talk) 07:25, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm strongly against including any 久 variations here just because they can be pronounced "jiǔ" like 九. This kind of thing can quickly get out of hand.

Besides, people searching phonetically can search for Jiulong and easily find "玖龍"/"玖龙" there instead.

Another point to consider is that this dab is targeted mainly to English speakers, who are not-so-knowledgeable of the Chinese language. You should be careful not to confuse them. For example, people may misunderstand that "玖龍" can also be used for Kowloon and other instances of "九龍".

If "玖龍"/"玖龙" must be listed here, please do so in a distinctly separate section near the bottom, and please clearly explain that the character used 玖 is not the same as 九.--Endroit (talk) 16:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Redlinks

Getting rid of redlinks isn't a good idea in this case. Badagnani (talk) 00:49, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Merger proposal

Why are these three disambiguation articles separate?

• Jiulong (disambiguation)
• Kowloon (disambiguation)
• 九龍 (disambiguation)

They all describe the same thing. "九龍" is pronounced Jiulong" in mainland China and "Kowloon" in Hong Kong. If I were in charge, I'd merge 九龍 into Jiulong, but I don't know what to with Kowloon. I know I can perform the merge myself, but I'd like to hear your all opinions before doing so. Woshiyiweizhongguoren (🇨🇳) 11:20, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

This is the English Wikipedia. In English-language sources, some of the things in those disambiguation pages are likely to be called "Jiulong", some are likely to be called "Kowloon", and some aren't likely to be called either. In particular, none of the items in 九龍 (disambiguation) are likely to be called "Jiulong" in English-language sources (or in English in general), so merging them into Jiulong (disambiguation) would do a disservice to our readers. Compare Gdańsk (disambiguation) and Danzig (disambiguation) for a Polish/German example instead of Mandarin/Cantonese/other. Huon (talk) 17:31, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Got you, Huon. Woshiyiweizhongguoren (🇨🇳) 18:41, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Attracting reviewers using the help template

See above.

If you want to attract attention, leave a note at a relevant WikiProject's talk page, say WT:WikiProject China or WT:WikiProject Disambiguation. Huon (talk) 17:06, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Huon. Woshiyiweizhongguoren (🇨🇳) 16:00, 31 March 2019 (UTC)