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A fact from ʼuʼ appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 September 2010 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the first Klingon language opera, ’u’, premiered at The Hague on 9 September 2010?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2010/September.

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Lower case

The correct spelling in Klingon is ’u’, not ’U’. Several media sources report it correctly, as does the opera's official website. Even more importantly, the Klingon Dictionary (ISBN 0-671-74559-X) indicates that the spelling is ’u’. There is no such letter as a capital U in Klingon; the letter u is always small case. Aridd (talk) 18:38, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Synopsis and cast

My recent additions were based on the official 2010 Zeebelt handout. Containing the full cast and crew list and the scene list and summary. SpeakFree (talk) 18:46, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's usual for cast lists for operas to bring the voice type for each character. So you should include if each part was written for a soprano, tenor, baritone, etc. 177.16.151.185 (talk) 04:21, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That would be fine if that information was available. 145.129.74.92 (talk) 11:54, 19 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Research

The article claims that

Artistic and stage director and "head researcher" of the ’u’ project, Floris Schönfeld carefully researched all mentions and examples of Klingon opera in the various incarnations of Star Trek^[1] in order to make the opera as "authentic" as possible in following the conventions of Klingon battle opera. He created an "ancient treatise" called the "paq’jachchcu, or book of the perfect scream", as a "theory manuscript of Klingon music".

He could have put a bit more research into the name of his book - c isn't a letter in Klingon except part of the digraph ch; you can't have three consonants in a row unless the first two are one of rgh w' y'; and you can't just mash words together in Klingon any more than you can write "the perfectscreambook" in English. (We don't even know a word for "scream" the noun in Klingon, for that matter.)

I'd suggest something like jachchu'meH paq "book for screaming perfectly". Or if we did have a noun "scream" (say *jach), then maybe something like *jach pup paq "book of the perfect scream" (*jach "scream" (hypothetically), pup "perfect, exact", paq "book"). Though TBH I'm not sure whether you can have noun–noun constructions with an intervening adjective (though demonstrative and possessive suffixes on the first element are clearly fine). -- pne (talk) 07:16, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Footnote eleven, a newspaper article in Britain's The Guardian, says "Schoenfeld conceived an 'ancient treatise' called the paq'jachchcu". So, unless you can find a reference to show that the paper made a misprint, We'll have to go with The Guardian. See WP:V. Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:20, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, well. If it's ancient, it could be (ta-da!) Early Klingon! --Thnidu (talk) 06:08, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ See, e.g., this performance and this one of "The Klingon Anthem" from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and this Klingon song from the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "Birthright, part 2".

Uncertain date of premiere

I'm translating this article into Czech now for Czech Wikipedia and I see that there is written that premiere took place on 10 September 2010. However different sources are giving different claims about this:

Official website of ’u’ or article on Wired says that it was on 9th. Also I see that this claim was posted on the main page of Wikipedia on Did you know? section.
Currently the article claims that it was on 10th and so does this video (2:25), for example. So what's true, please?

Article also mentions the reference "Time magazine, 13 September 2010, p. 17" but I don't have this magazine so I can't check this. I appologize for possible mistakes, English is not my native language --Loupeznik (talk) 19:43, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There was a preview on the 9th, and then it officially opened on the 10th. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:58, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is true, I was there on the 10th. 145.129.74.92 (talk) 21:44, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Typewriter font

I'm putting all the Klingon words, including the name of the opera, in typewriter font – see Klingon language#Writing systems – and transcluding Template:Tt-Klingon at the top of the page. Exceptions: the article title itself; headlines in Terran-language publications, as cited in references; the planet name Qo'noS. --Thnidu (talk) 05:44, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] See, e.g., this performance and this one of "The Klingon Anthem" from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and this Klingon song from the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "Birthright, part 2".

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