Draft:Azo (conservative 4b) movement

• Comment: The only difference between this and the existing article here appears to be from the Reddit thread which would not be a reliable source (as it is a user generated source). It also reads like it is more original research or a WP:SOAPBOX than anything else. Bkissin (talk) 02:31, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

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The azo movement, also known as the conservative 4b movement or pro-celibate group is a moderate and conservative set of ideas commonly asosiated with the 4b movement. It originated in America in early to mid 2024 when the 4b movement was starting to gain popularity in America before the 2024 election.

Core tenets

Just like the 4b movement, the tenets of no dating, no marriage, and no sex are generally kept, however these are put in place because of the core azo idea that sex and lust is inherently bad. This movement says that dating, marriage, and sex are allowed for the goal of family started and making children to keep humanity alive, however the lust oriented pleasure is not allowed. It is believed here that the purpose of sex is to reproduce, and that all pleasure is simply just an incentive to reproduce. This means that even though sex for procreation is allowed, sex for the sole purpose of pleasure or bonding is strictly prohibited. In addition, the 4b movement values children and believes they are the future of humanity. Children are considered to be the only reason why the act of sex would be done.

This means the core tenets to the azo movement are: 1. Sex is the primary goal of reproduction, no sex solely for pleasure 2. No marriage and by extension dating except for the point above 3. Women have the right to say no to sex, especially if they do not want to have kids 4. Children are the future, they are the reason why sex existed in the first place

Clarifications: Concerning points 1 and 2: marriage is viewed as a path to sex, which by extension makes marriage a path to children. Concerning points 3 and 4: a woman should say no to sex if she does not want kids because sex is seen as a way of making children.

Azo versus the 4b movement

Although both of these generally share the same tenets, or the "four nos" in 4b, the reasons and specifics have many differences. For example, the 4b movement just says no sex with men, but the azo movement says no sex with anyone except for reproduction. Another difference is that the azo movement is for both men and women, it is not majority women like the 4b movement is. A third key difference mentioned in core tenets is that the azo movement values children, while the 4b movement makes it a key tenet to not allow children. Despite these differences, the azo movement is commonly associated with the 4b movement for it's generally pro-celebrate values and it being inspired by the 4b movement.

Like with the 4b movement, the azo movement is also associated with the "asexual without the lgb" movement and celibate Christian groups of people. The connections and inspiration azo has from 4b has made these two be associated, despite azo being a more conservative movement than 4b's feminist movement.

The early days

The azo movement started in early to mid-2024 when a group of conservative Christian women learned about the 4b movement, but they did not agree with every aspect of it. They wanted to keep the four tenants, but change some of the specifics to better encapsulate Christian values. It was already a strong belief that lust was considered to be bad, the 4b movement was used as an inspiration to create this movement.