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Marxist vs. Marxist theorist

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What is your thought in making Category:Marxists in distinction to subcat Category:Marxist theorists? It would seem that both I (in a very modest way) and Stephen Jay Gould (in an esteemed way) would belong just as well in the latter subcat. In fact, kinda anyone in the first would seem to (not necessarily everyone who is, e.g. a "Communist" or "Socialist", as in a political party member, would belong there; but everyone who is a "Marxist" as generally used). Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 05:33, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In possible defense of your distinction, Levi-Strauss famously remarked that he and Sartre had only one thing in common, that they were both Marxists. But while both are great "theorists", neither took as their object of thought the field of Marxism (at least not in the main). Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 05:42, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The category "Marxist theorists" was created first. Then I created the category "Marxists" for those on Wikipedia who supported Marxism but didn't appear to be primarily known as theorists of Marxism. Maybe everyone should go under "Marxists" just to avoid having to make a distinction and to conform with the other categories, e.g. we have "Trotskyists" but not "Trotskyist theorists". Rtr322

Marxists subcategory of Communists, or vice versa

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As of today, this category is a subcategory of Category:Communists. However, I believe that it should be the other way around. Communism is a part of Marxism, not the other way around. Communists are Marxists who advocate a political system based on Marxism. But Marxism covers more than a political system. It's also a school of economic analysis, a school of history etc, because Marxism doesn't only cover a vision of a future political and economic order, but just as much an analysis of the past and the (then) present. It is also possible to be a Marxist without being a communist. Eduard Bernstein, for instance, was a Marxist theorist, but not a communist. On the other hand, there are few communists who don't identify as Marxist. --Te og kaker (talk) 18:55, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]