Category talk:Feminists by religion

This page needs to be deleted immediately. Bigots and misogynists are trying to use the number of Jewish feminists as some sort of political statement. This must be stopped. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.93.200.5 (talk) 04:59, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

You're the only bigot here. 204.52.135.203 (talk) 20:15, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

That is ridiculous. To delete this page would be to censor factual information for the purpose of advancing your own agenda. Is there perhaps a conflict of interest for why you would want the background of popular feminists to be covered up? 140.180.255.79 (talk) 05:03, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Is it a "conflict of interest" to want to promote equality? There's absolutely no reason to have this page if its only use is as a weapon by racists. I'm not saying let's delete all the 'religion' info on each individual feminists' page, but removing an easy numerical categorization like this is a pretty fair request in my opinion. Please be reasonable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.93.200.2 (talk) 23:56, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

You appear to be on a personal crusade here. There are plenty of pages sorting people by ethnic or religious background. Are these all created by racists? In my opinion you sound borderline paranoid and I highly doubt that you can back up your claims - it is really a far-stretched assumption anyway - that only racists care about the ethnicity of feminists. Please familiarize yourself with WP:CENSOR 91.49.221.249 (talk) 23:35, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Use of this page as antisemitic propaganda

example: https://archive.fo/FeNRo

This is exacerbated beyond whatever the true breakdown might be by:

1. This page shows a count of "Jewish feminists‎ (285 P)", while the majority of the count of "Christian feminists (7 C, 35 P)" are hidden (not reflected in the top-level displayed total) in subcategories (eg "Christian feminist theologians‎ (42 P)")

2. Most listed "jewish" feminists are tagged as jewish and listed on this page on the basis of their sourced ethnicity (without particular regard to their religious affiliation), while unknowably-many other feminists are not tagged with a religious affiliation and thus not counted on this page at all (in subcategories, or otherwise); examples (from just going to other "Feminist" pages and clicking the first several links):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolores_Alexander ("American feminists", "Anti-pornography feminists", "Lesbian feminists", "Radical feminists"; noted to have gone to Catholic school, but not otherwise religiously-tagged)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chude_Pam_Allen ("American feminists", "Radical feminists"; noted to have grown up Episcopalian, but not otherwise religiously-tagged)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretel_Ammann ("Lesbian feminists", "Radical feminists"; no religion referenced in article; not religiously-tagged)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Adam ("English feminist writers"; noted to be the daughter of a Church of England vicar and a "Christian socialist feminist"; not religiously-tagged)

etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.6.253.121 (talk)

The question of who is a Jew is outside the scope of this discussion page. The Jewish feminist category would apply to both religious and ethnic and is most efficiently categorized as being a subset of this category. It's not precise, but neither is deciding who is a Jew and who is not a Jew. Racists and anti-Semites tend to prescribe Judaism to anything they don't like, so I don't see why they should be catered to by intentionally obfuscating actual Jewish feminists from this category. Miscategorization can be raised on a page-by-page basis but are likely to be rejected unless they aren't also Ethnically Jewish as well.

Frankly, globalization and feminism have been largely championed by Jews and to deny them the credit they deserve would be a miscarriage. --Lunatic, Esquire (talk) 00:06, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Frankly, I'm a bit disgusted by Anti-Semitic people wishing to erase Jews from the history books. Jews are one of the leading sources of innovation in science, and mathematics. In the social sciences, they are definitely the leading contributors. No contribution by notable Jews should be "censored" due to a tiny minority with a radical agenda, taking things out vulgarly out of context. This section could be improved by listing other notable feminists by religion (or lack of one), but straight up censorship is almost never the answer. 174.54.4.54 (talk) 02:04, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

In the spirit of what you said at the end there, I've re-added the "Atheist feminists" category back to this category... not sure why it was removed. For practical purposes, atheist feminism should be categorized here - especially because many of those listed feminists will tie the two together in their belief system. After all, laws protecting freedom of religion do tend to extend to atheists, so irreligion can obviously be categorized in this way when practical. I have also re-created the "Quaker feminists" category, and I'll be looking for pages to add to that. Quakers were actually much more influential in the early feminist movement in the United States than Jews were, and I think adding that additional context could help to assuage some of the anti-Semitism fears some other editors voiced before on this talk page. Our approach here, as you said, should include introduction of additional context, not censorship. Besides, I think it's a travesty that the contribution of Quaker feminists hasn't been well represented here to this point! Jewish people have made a hefty contribution to the feminist movement, we shouldn't deny or hide that. However, people of Quaker background have also made a hefty contribution to the feminist movement, historically (Susan B. Anthony for example was a Quaker). I will try to make sure that is visible. Chillabit (talk) 22:33, 12 December 2020 (UTC)