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1985 Scott Tournament of Hearts

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1985 Scott Tournament of Hearts
Host cityWinnipeg, Manitoba
ArenaWinnipeg Arena
DatesFebruary 23–March 2
Attendance18,203[1]
Winner British Columbia
Curling clubNorth Vancouver CC, North Vancouver
SkipLinda Moore
ThirdLindsay Sparkes
SecondDebbie Jones
LeadLaurie Carney
Finalist Newfoundland (Sue Anne Bartlett)
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The 1985 Scott Tournament of Hearts, the Canadian women's curling championship, was held from February 23 to March 2, 1985 at the Winnipeg Arena in Winnipeg, Manitoba. The total attendance for the tournament was 18,203 people.[1] This would be the first year in which the champion would automatically qualify to next year's tournament as Team Canada.

Team British Columbia, who was skipped by Linda Moore won the event by defeating Newfoundland 13–7 in the final in nine ends, marking the first time a final was conceded prior to ten ends being completed. This was BC's fifth title overall and the only title skipped by Moore.

Moore's rink dominated the tournament as they finished unbeaten with an 11–0 record, becoming the first team since the Emily Farnham's Saskatchewan rink did so in 1974 and the first team to do so in the Hearts era (since 1982). They were also the last team until 2013 to finish round robin play unbeaten and the last team until 2014 to not lose a single game in the tournament.[2]

Moore's rink would go onto represent Canada in the 1985 World Women's Curling Championship in Jönköping, Sweden, which they also won.

The final would set records for the most points scored by one team in a final (13), the most combined points scored in a final (20), and the highest score in one end with hammer in a final (five by BC in the first end).[3] The most points and combined points records remain finals records while the highest score with hammer was matched in the 2023 final.

Teams

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The teams were listed as follows:[4]

Alberta British Columbia Manitoba New Brunswick
North Hill CC, Calgary

Skip: Susan Seitz
Third: Judy Lukowich
Second: Judy Erickson
Lead: Betty McCracken

North Vancouver CC, North Vancouver

Skip: Linda Moore
Third: Lindsay Sparkes
Second: Debbie Jones
Lead: Laurie Carney

Portage la Prairie CC, Portage la Prairie

Skip: Jacki Rintoul
Third: Merline Darbyshire
Second: Carolyn Darbyshire
Lead: Yvonne Beaudin

Thistle St. Andrews CC, Saint John

Skip: Marlene Vaughn
Third: Judy Connor
Second: Gail Shields
Lead: Pauline Lynch

Newfoundland Nova Scotia Ontario Prince Edward Island
Carol CC, Labrador City

Skip: Sue Anne Bartlett
Third: Patricia Dwyer
Second: Margaret Knickle
Lead: Debbie Herbert

CFB Halifax CC, Halifax

Skip: Virginia Jackson
Third: Marg Cutcliffe
Second: Joan Hutchinson
Lead: Sherry Jackson

Roseland CC, Windsor

Skip: Pam Leavitt
Third: Susan Bell
Second: Bev Mainwaring
Lead: Deb Brousseau

Charlottetown CC, Charlottetown

Skip: Kim Dolan
Third: Cathy Dillon
Second: Kathie Gallant
Lead: Karen MacDonald

Quebec Saskatchewan Yukon/Northwest Territories
Buckingham CC, Buckingham

Skip: Nicole Filion
Third: Julie Graham
Second: June Lamarre
Lead: Mary Duranceau

Nutana CC, Saskatoon

Skip: Sheila Rowan
Third: Jean MacLean
Second: Maureen Burkitt
Lead: Eileen Wilson

Whitehorse CC, Whitehorse

Skip: Shelly Bildfell
Third: Betty McCrae
Second: Lou McCrae
Lead: Dale Twa

Map of teams

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Round Robin Standings

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Final Round Robin standings[4]

Key
Teams to Playoffs
Teams to Tiebreaker
Team Skip W L PF PA EW EL BE SE S%
 British Columbia Linda Moore 10 0 72 47 44 40 6 13 71%
 Nova Scotia Virginia Jackson 7 3 69 53 48 36 6 16 64%
 Newfoundland Sue Anne Bartlett 7 3 73 60 46 44 6 18 65%
 Alberta Susan Seitz 7 3 75 57 46 41 5 18 64%
 Yukon/Northwest Territories Shelly Bildfell 6 4 72 65 46 40 1 19 61%
 Manitoba Jacki Rintoul 5 5 65 62 46 37 4 21 60%
 Prince Edward Island Kim Dolan 4 6 64 57 43 43 3 13 67%
 Saskatchewan Sheila Rowan 3 7 57 74 38 40 4 15 65%
 Ontario Pam Leavitt 3 7 59 66 37 44 4 12 62%
 New Brunswick Marlene Vaughn 2 8 46 84 32 41 9 8 59%
 Quebec Nicole Filion 1 9 49 76 32 50 3 9 53%

Round Robin results

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All draw times are listed in Central Standard Time (UTC-06:00).[4][5]

Draw 1

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Saturday, February 23, 7:30 pm

Sheet A 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 British Columbia (Moore) 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 3 0 X 5
 New Brunswick (Vaughn) (has hammer) 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 X 1
Sheet B 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Manitoba (Rintoul) 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 X X 1
 Prince Edward Island (Dolan) (has hammer) 1 2 0 0 1 3 1 3 X X 11
Sheet C 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Saskatchewan (Rowan) (has hammer) 1 0 0 0 2 1 1 0 1 X 6
 Ontario (Leavitt) 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 2 0 X 3
Sheet D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Quebec (Filion) (has hammer) 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 X 3
 Nova Scotia (Jackson) 0 1 2 0 2 1 0 1 2 X 9
Sheet E 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 Final
 Newfoundland (Bartlett) 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 2 1 0 2 7
 Alberta (Seitz) (has hammer) 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 5

Draw 2

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Sunday, February 24, 2:00 pm

Sheet A 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Alberta (Seitz) (has hammer) 3 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 X 6
 Nova Scotia (Jackson) 0 0 1 2 0 1 0 0 1 X 5
Sheet B 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 New Brunswick (Vaughn) (has hammer) 0 0 0 2 2 0 4 0 0 1 9
 Saskatchewan (Rowan) 1 0 3 0 0 4 0 0 2 0 10
Sheet C 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Prince Edward Island (Dolan) (has hammer) 1 1 0 0 2 0 0 1 1 X 6
 Quebec (Filion) 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 X 3
Sheet D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Ontario (Leavitt) (has hammer) 0 2 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 5
 Newfoundland (Bartlett) 2 0 0 2 0 0 1 1 1 0 7
Sheet E 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Yukon/Northwest Territories (Bildfell) 1 0 2 0 0 0 0 1 1 X 5
 Manitoba (Rintoul) (has hammer) 0 1 0 3 0 1 2 0 0 X 7

Draw 3

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Sunday, February 24, 7:30 pm

Sheet A 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Quebec (Filion) 0 0 2 1 0 0 0 1 0 X 4
 Yukon/Northwest Territories (Bildfell) (has hammer) 1 2 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 X 7
Sheet B 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Nova Scotia (Jackson) (has hammer) 2 0 1 1 0 1 2 0 1 X 8
 Ontario (Leavitt) 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 2 0 X 4
Sheet C 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Newfoundland (Bartlett) (has hammer) 1 0 0 2 0 0 2 2 0 1 8
 New Brunswick (Vaughn) 0 1 1 0 2 1 0 0 1 0 6
Sheet D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Prince Edward Island (Dolan) 0 1 0 0 1 0 2 0 1 2 7
 Alberta (Seitz) (has hammer) 0 0 1 1 0 2 0 1 0 0 5
Sheet E 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Saskatchewan (Rowan) 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 5
 British Columbia (Moore) (has hammer) 0 1 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 1 6

Draw 4

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Monday, February 25, 2:00 pm

Sheet A 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Ontario (Leavitt) (has hammer) 2 1 0 1 1 3 0 0 0 1 9
 Prince Edward Island (Dolan) 0 0 1 0 0 0 2 2 2 0 7
Sheet B 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 Final
 British Columbia (Moore) 0 3 0 0 0 2 0 0 1 1 1 8
 Newfoundland (Bartlett) (has hammer) 2 0 1 3 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 7
Sheet C 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Yukon/Northwest Territories (Bildfell) (has hammer) 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 X 4
 Alberta (Seitz) 2 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 2 X 7
Sheet D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Manitoba (Rintoul) 0 2 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 X 7
 Quebec (Filion) (has hammer) 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 X 4
Sheet E 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 New Brunswick (Vaughn) (has hammer) 0 2 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 X 4
 Nova Scotia (Jackson) 2 0 1 0 2 0 0 3 1 X 9

Draw 5

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Monday, February 25, 7:30 pm

Sheet A 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Newfoundland (Bartlett) 2 0 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 3 8
 Saskatchewan (Rowan) (has hammer) 0 2 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 6
Sheet B 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Alberta (Seitz) 0 3 2 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 8
 Manitoba (Rintoul) (has hammer) 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 1 2 7
Sheet C 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Nova Scotia (Jackson) 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 X 4
 British Columbia (Moore) (has hammer) 1 2 0 2 0 1 0 0 1 X 7
Sheet D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Prince Edward Island (Dolan) (has hammer) 0 2 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 5
 New Brunswick (Vaughn) 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 2 6
Sheet E 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Ontario (Leavitt) (has hammer) 2 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 2 0 8
 Yukon/Northwest Territories (Bildfell) 0 0 2 1 2 2 0 1 0 1 9

Draw 6

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Tuesday, February 26, 2:00 pm

Sheet A 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Quebec (Filion) (has hammer) 0 0 2 1 0 2 0 2 0 X 7
 Alberta (Seitz) 2 2 0 0 2 0 2 0 2 X 10
Sheet B 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 New Brunswick (Vaughn) (has hammer) 0 3 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 X 5
 Yukon/Northwest Territories (Bildfell) 0 0 0 3 1 0 0 3 1 X 8
Sheet C 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Manitoba (Rintoul) 0 2 0 1 2 0 0 0 1 3 9
 Ontario (Leavitt) (has hammer) 2 0 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 5
Sheet D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Saskatchewan (Rowan) 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 2 0 5
 Nova Scotia (Jackson) (has hammer) 1 0 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 6
Sheet E 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 British Columbia (Moore) 0 1 0 1 0 3 0 1 0 0 6
 Prince Edward Island (Dolan) (has hammer) 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 5

Draw 7

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Tuesday, February 26, 7:30 pm

Sheet A 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 New Brunswick (Vaughn) 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 3 7
 Manitoba (Rintoul) (has hammer) 0 0 2 0 2 0 0 1 0 0 5
Sheet B 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Quebec (Filion) 0 3 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 6
 Ontario (Leavitt) (has hammer) 2 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 1 2 8
Sheet C 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 Final
 Prince Edward Island (Dolan) 2 0 2 0 1 0 1 0 2 0 1 9
 Saskatchewan (Rowan) (has hammer) 0 2 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 4 0 8
Sheet D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Yukon/Northwest Territories (Bildfell) 0 1 0 0 1 0 3 0 0 X 5
 British Columbia (Moore) (has hammer) 1 0 3 1 0 2 0 2 1 X 10
Sheet E 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Nova Scotia (Jackson) 1 1 0 0 2 1 0 1 0 1 7
 Newfoundland (Bartlett) (has hammer) 0 0 0 2 0 0 1 0 3 0 6

Draw 8

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Wednesday, February 27, 2:00 pm

Sheet A 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Saskatchewan (Rowan) (has hammer) 0 0 0 1 0 X X X X X 1
 Yukon/Northwest Territories (Bildfell) 2 1 3 0 5 X X X X X 11
Sheet B 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Newfoundland (Bartlett) 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 X 5
 Prince Edward Island (Dolan) (has hammer) 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 X 3
Sheet C 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Manitoba (Rintoul) (has hammer) 2 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 X 7
 British Columbia (Moore) 0 0 2 0 3 0 3 0 0 X 8
Sheet D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Alberta (Seitz) 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 5
 Ontario (Leavitt) (has hammer) 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 4
Sheet E 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Quebec (Filion) (has hammer) 0 3 0 2 3 3 X X X X 11
 New Brunswick (Vaughn) 0 0 1 0 0 0 X X X X 1

Draw 9

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Wednesday, February 27, 7:30 pm

Sheet A 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Prince Edward Island (Dolan) (has hammer) 0 0 2 0 2 0 0 0 1 0 5
 Nova Scotia (Jackson) 0 2 0 3 0 0 0 1 0 1 7
Sheet B 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 British Columbia (Moore) (has hammer) 2 2 0 3 0 0 0 1 0 X 8
 Quebec (Filion) 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 X 5
Sheet C 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 New Brunswick (Vaughn) (has hammer) 1 0 1 0 2 0 0 1 0 X 5
 Alberta (Seitz) 0 3 0 2 0 3 4 0 0 X 12
Sheet D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Yukon/Northwest Territories (Bildfell) (has hammer) 0 0 0 0 1 0 4 0 2 X 7
 Newfoundland (Barlett) 2 1 1 1 0 2 0 3 0 X 10
Sheet E 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Saskatchewan (Rowan) (has hammer) 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 X X 1
 Manitoba (Rintoul) 1 1 1 1 1 0 2 2 X X 9

Draw 10

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Thursday, February 28, 2:00 pm

Sheet A 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Manitoba (Rintoul) 0 2 1 0 2 0 2 0 1 1 9
 Newfoundland (Bartlett) (has hammer) 3 0 0 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 6
Sheet B 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Ontario (Leavitt) 0 3 2 1 2 3 X X X X 11
 New Brunswick (Vaughn) (has hammer) 2 0 0 0 0 0 X X X X 2
Sheet C 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Nova Scotia (Jackson) (has hammer) 1 0 2 1 0 2 0 0 1 0 7
 Yukon/Northwest Territories (Bildfell) 0 2 0 0 2 0 1 3 0 1 9
Sheet D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Quebec (Filion) 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 X X X 2
 Saskatchewan (Rowan) (has hammer) 2 1 2 4 1 0 1 X X X 11
Sheet E 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Alberta (Seitz) (has hammer) 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 2 6
 British Columbia (Moore) 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 0 3 0 7

Draw 11

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Thursday, February 28, 7:30 pm

Sheet A 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 British Columbia (Moore) (has hammer) 0 2 2 0 0 0 1 1 1 X 7
 Ontario (Leavitt) 0 0 0 1 2 1 0 0 0 X 4
Sheet B 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Alberta (Seitz) (has hammer) 0 0 4 0 2 2 0 0 3 X 11
 Saskatchewan (Rowan) 1 2 0 1 0 0 2 0 0 X 6
Sheet C 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Newfoundland (Bartlett) (has hammer) 1 1 2 1 0 1 0 3 0 X 9
 Quebec (Filion) 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 2 X 4
Sheet D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Nova Scotia (Jackson) (has hammer) 2 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 3 X 7
 Manitoba (Rintoul) 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 X 4
Sheet E 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Yukon/Northwest Territories (Bildfell) (has hammer) 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 7
 Prince Edward Island (Dolan) 0 0 0 0 3 0 2 0 0 1 6

Tiebreaker

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Friday, March 1, 2:00 pm

Sheet B 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Newfoundland (Bartlett) (has hammer) 0 0 0 2 1 3 0 2 X X 8
 Alberta (Seitz) 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 X X 2
Player percentages
 Newfoundland  Alberta
Debbie Herbert 63% Betty McCracken 75%
Margie Knickle 41% Judy Erickson 59%
Patricia Dwyer 61% Judy Lukowich 45%
Sue Anne Bartlett 80% Susan Seitz 63%
Total 61% Total 61%

Playoffs

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Semifinal Final
1  British Columbia 13
2  Nova Scotia 3 3  Newfoundland 7
3  Newfoundland 8

Semifinal

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Friday, March 1, 7:30 pm

Sheet D 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 Nova Scotia (Jackson) 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 X 3
 Newfoundland (Bartlett) (has hammer) 0 2 1 1 3 0 0 0 1 X 8
Player percentages
 Nova Scotia  Newfoundland
Sherry Jackson 85% Debbie Herbert 59%
Joan Hutchinson 88% Margie Knickle 61%
Marg Cutcliffe 63% Patricia Dwyer 68%
Virginia Jackson 46% Sue Anne Bartlett 78%
Total 70% Total 67%

Final

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Saturday, March 2, 1:00 pm

Sheet C 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Final
 British Columbia (Moore) (has hammer) 5 2 1 0 1 0 2 0 2 X 13
 Newfoundland (Bartlett) 0 0 0 2 0 2 0 3 0 X 7
Player percentages
 British Columbia  Newfoundland
Laurie Carney 72% Debbie Herbert 82%
Debbie Jones 74% Margie Knickle 69%
Lindsay Sparkes 60% Patricia Dwyer 57%
Linda Moore 75% Sue Anne Bartlett 60%
Total 75% Total 67%

Statistics

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Top 5 player percentages

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Final Round Robin Percentages[4]

Key
All-Star Team
Leads %
Newfoundland and Labrador Debbie Herbert 74
Nova Scotia Sherry Jackson 72
British Columbia Laurie Carney 70
Ontario Deb Brousseau 67
Saskatchewan Eileen Wilson 67
Seconds %
British Columbia Debbie Jones 75
Manitoba Carolyn Darbyshire 68
Saskatchewan Maureen Burkitt 67
Prince Edward Island Kathie Gallant 67
Ontario Bev Mainwaring 66
Thirds %
British Columbia Lindsay Sparkes 75
Prince Edward Island Cathy Dillon 74
Saskatchewan Jean MacLean 64
Newfoundland and Labrador Patricia Dwyer 63
Alberta Judy Lukowich 62
New Brunswick Judy Connor 62
Skips %
Alberta Susan Seitz 66
British Columbia Linda Moore 63
Saskatchewan Sheila Rowan 63
Prince Edward Island Kim Dolan 63
Nova Scotia Virginia Jackson 62
Newfoundland and Labrador Sue Anne Bartlett 62

Awards

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The all-star team and sportsmanship award winners were as follows:[6]

All-Star Team

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Position Name Team
Skip Susan Seitz  Alberta
Third Lindsay Sparkes  British Columbia
Second Debbie Jones  British Columbia
Lead Debbie Herbert  Newfoundland

Lura McLuckie Award

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The Scotties Tournament of Hearts Sportsmanship Award is presented to the curler who best embodies the spirit of curling at the Scotties Tournament of Hearts. The winner was selected in a vote by all players at the tournament.

Prior to 1998, the award was named after a notable individual in the curling community where the tournament was held that year. For this edition, the award was named after Lura McLuckie, a builder for women's curling as she was the president of both the Manitoba Ladies Curling Association and Canadian Ladies Curling Association and guided a Scottish women's tour along with helping launch the Canadian Junior Women's Curling Championship.[7]

Name Team Position
Cathy Dillon  Prince Edward Island Third

References

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  1. ^ a b "2023 Scotties Tournament of Hearts Media Guide" (PDF). Curling Canada. p. 85. Retrieved 27 February 2023.
  2. ^ "2023 Scotties Tournament of Hearts Media Guide" (PDF). Curling Canada. p. 88. Retrieved 16 March 2023.
  3. ^ "Hearts Records". Curling Canada Stats Archive. Curling Canada. Retrieved 16 March 2023.
  4. ^ a b c d "1985 Scott Tournament of Hearts". Curling Canada Stats Archive. Curling Canada. Retrieved 16 March 2023.
  5. ^ "Draw for the Canadian women's curling championship". The Winnipeg Sun. Newspapers.com. February 22, 1985. p. 28. Retrieved 16 March 2023.
  6. ^ "2023 Scotties Tournament of Hearts Media Guide" (PDF). Curling Canada. p. 148. Retrieved 28 February 2023.
  7. ^ "Lura McLuckie". Manitoba Sports Hall of Fame. Retrieved 16 March 2023.