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The following is an automatically-generated compilation of all talk pages for the Signpost issue dated 2024-11-18. For general Signpost discussion, see Wikipedia talk:Signpost.
In the media: Summons issued for Wikipedia editors by Indian court, "Gaza genocide" RfC close in news, old admin Gwern now big AI guy, and a "spectrum of reluctance" over Australian place names (2,129 bytes · 💬)
- I understand the high level of interest that exists on this project about the ANI vs. WikiMedia case but I think we have to use the same guidelines we use in content creation to determine the reliability of the sources of information we come across to learn new developments on this case. There are articles claiming that WikiMedia has turned over the personal information of these 3 editors to the Indian court but buried in this story you cite, WMF states that they have not turned over any information nor sent notifications to these editors yet. With so much contradictory information circulating oline, I think editors have to use their considerable editing skills to assess what is going on in this case in these days before December 16th, the next court date, so as not fall prey to disinformation. Liz Read! Talk! 00:12, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- This has been one of the most difficult stories to cover as a Signpost editor, and I wrote up the Framgate "constitutional crisis" synopsis! There's a combination of community pre-pushback on covering legal matters, opacity from the Foundation, press intentionally muddying the waters (IMHO), threat of SLAPP lawsuits, and a lack of Signpost staff to adequately chase down everything we would like to do. In the interest of the community knowledge about this crucial matter, I've pushed for the last two issues to include whatever information that we had at hand, even if it's not perfectly polished. ☆ Bri (talk) 00:20, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
News and notes: Open letter to WMF about court case breaks one thousand signatures, big arb case declined, U4C begins accepting cases (1,779 bytes · 💬)
- I'm surprised that you announce that "CheckUser and COI VRT appointments" have been made but direct readers to go to a different page to find out what they were. This is not a huge amount of content, is there a reason you aren't just mentioning them here in this paragraph? Just curious. Liz Read! Talk! 23:51, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Short answer: deadline. Longer answer: we need more Signpost writers and this was a hanging bullet linked to the AC/N page until about an hour before publication. I figured something was better than nothing. Note that another section that nobody got to still contains a naked-and-afraid bare link to a meta page. ☆ (talk) 00:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Well, thanks for your quick response, Bri. To be honest, it looked to me that the page was published before the story was finished which is what happened. Just this week, I read on a user talk page that a newer editor was interested in writing for the Signpost, I should have stopped and provided a link to your suggestion page. Next time, I'll be ready. Liz Read! Talk! 00:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Short answer: deadline. Longer answer: we need more Signpost writers and this was a hanging bullet linked to the AC/N page until about an hour before publication. I figured something was better than nothing. Note that another section that nobody got to still contains a naked-and-afraid bare link to a meta page. ☆ (talk) 00:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
News from the WMF: Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Endowment audit reports: FY 2023–2024 (1,092 bytes · 💬)
- It's good to hear that growth in budget is slowing, per the plan. I think it's easy for us on the English Wikipedia to forget about how much the WMF does to support the existence of projects in other languages. Perhaps only a couple dozen Wikipedias are really self-sustaining and could get along without non-technical support from the WMF. The reduction in office space also seems sensible. —Ganesha811 (talk) 00:23, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- If anyone reading this knows about WMF's future plans and can tell me what these "technical innovation on the Wikimedia projects" consists of, a link would be very helpful. Thanks, in advance. Liz Read! Talk! 00:54, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Recent research: SPINACH: AI help for asking Wikidata "challenging real-world questions" (0 bytes · 💬)
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Traffic report: Well, let us share with you our knowledge, about the electoral college (0 bytes · 💬)
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