Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2014-04-09/Special report

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Though you are no longer with us, we will continue to celebrate the ways you have made us better, and how you inspired us through the edits you've made, the relationships you've fostered and the ideals you brought to the project. Thank you for being bold, and doing the Wikipedia Weekly interview that connected you to the greater community and motivated so many other female editors and academics. Your work and your time with us will live on, as long as Wikipedia lives on. -- Fuzheado | Talk 22:16, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
So sad when we loose genuine contibutors, and wiki-colleagues like this. We also lost User:Cindamuse just recently, a real double blow. All the best, Rich Farmbrough, 04:10, 13 April 2014 (UTC).[reply]
- Indeed. That's a terrible loss to us all; AW had done more than practically any other Wikipedian for our community. I can only hope that this will encourage some Wikipedians to reconsider risking their lives in such a fashion. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:05, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the thorough report. We will miss Adrianne. A report about Cindamuse will be published next week. --Pine^✉ 06:38, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I had occasion to work with AW on several articles when I was first writing featured articles. She was one of the most skillful and brilliant editors ever on Wikipedia. A terrible loss for the free content movement, and for anyone who values good writing on Wikipedia. -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:10, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I share the sense of loss, both of a nonpareil editor and of a young person cut off in her prime. So terribly sad. Requiescat! Tim riley (talk) 18:04, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have never before encountered this description, and am unaware of any "controversy" surrounding the Plagiarism Dispatch that Awadewit collaborated on along with several of Wikpedia's finest writers:
... a controversial article titled "Let's get serious about plagiarism" ...
Perhaps someone can point me towards or explain what was "controversial" about that Dispatch, and according to whom? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:12, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Since you are new here, young sir, a controversial article is one that has the potential to create or exacerbate conflict, by making people question their proficiency in article-writing by calling it cheating.

Terrible news story, by the way. You should pick something better to write about. This topic is the worst. I hate it. --Moni3 (talk) 21:30, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote that after reading the talk page, SandyGeorgia (talk · contribs), such as this section. Describing it in that way was not intended as an insult, and indeed, the entire article is meant as a tribute. Moni3 (talk · contribs), I fully agree. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 18:34, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I miss you Adrianne (I also miss you, Cindy, and no, I haven't forgotten about you, you diva..<3 ) SarahStierch (talk) 02:49, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
...Ye gods. I haven't talked to her for a while, but just the other day I was talking about some of the things I learned from her - Mary Wollstonecraft's didactic novel for children, Original Stories from Real Life, and the structure of the development of English children's literature from didactic novels being all that was suitable, to an appreciation for allegory and fantasy. More than that, I learned a lot about how literature itself works, how movements grow, become outdated, and are replaced. I remember wondering what she was doing, and wishing I could get in touch with her again. More than that, I remember her. She was an amazing person, full of energy, enthusiasm, and kindness. She will be missed. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 19:08, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This may be crazy, but, is there any chance of an article on her? Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 19:10, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think she was notable enough as an academic yet. In 20 years she might have been. --Pine^✉ 02:17, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Adam. Is being a notable volunteer for Wikimedia (a global, notable organization) not enough of a good reason? Moreover, I get about 5,580 google search results ([1]) and even some in GoogleBooks ([2]). The fact that The Signpost was even able to make such a long story is evidence of her notability. Regards.--MarshalN20 ^Talk 18:02, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@MarshalN20: She fails WP:PROF as well as WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. She was a good editor. I was glad to attend her memorial service at Oxy. That's where the story ends. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:22, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have waited, in humility and sadness, to ask my question. I ask this as a former rock climber myself, and also, I started out here on Wikipedia five years ago writing biographies of rock climbers and mountaineers. I survived a dangerous rock climbing fall myself 35 years ago. So I confess that I am curious, in what I think is a positive way, about the circumstances of her death. What, precisely, went wrong? Perhaps the understandable and justifiable grief about her death can, at least in part, be channeled into improved coverage of climbing safety here on Wikipedia. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:37, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The prurient in me wants to know the circumstances of both deaths; but in the end, it's trivial compared with the fact of the cruel robbery, and dignity and privacy seem to be more important right now. I'm interested to know whether the community would accept notability for a deceased Wikimedian in terms of their publications for the movement. Tony (talk) 06:00, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Someone should write about it, but there is the customary time of bereavement that we must allow her loved ones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joe Nicotera (talk • contribs) 00:00, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Adam Cuerden and MarshalN20 I think the case for an article is improving.

If her death or events connected with her death are noted then that helps. --Pine^✉ 23:35, 18 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the notification Pine. I also appreciate Chris' explanation, but I must respectfully disagree that this is where Adrianne's story ends. I am not claiming that she was a notable academic, even though she certainly had the potential. She was a notable Wikipedian, both as a volunteer researcher/editor and advocate, and I consider that this should amount to something. Regards.--MarshalN20 ^Talk 00:25, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]