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  • I wonder if too, the article on the missing Gavin Hopley murder is actually a self fulfilling prophesy much as the article suggests the deletion was. After all, the fact that there is an article from a reputable source discussing the murder so long after could in fact show ongoing notability of the event. Miyagawa (talk) 17:30, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimania advertising

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The Wikimania page looks once more like something from Formula One. I'd rather Wikimania stayed faithful to what is usually claimed to be part of the essential spirit of Wikipedia: No advertising. No government funding. Some of these sponsorship deals (2012 page) are very much from a different world than Wikipedia. Example quote:

  • Diamond level: $40,000
  • Our three Diamond sponsors will receive the naming rights to the attendee party, opening night reception, or the Unconference. Diamond sponsors will also receive:
  • Large banner and acknowledgement during sponsored event.
  • 5 VIP tickets and full conference passes
  • Full-page ad in the program
  • Name & logo prominent on conference website and slideshow prior to the start of plenary sessions
  • Promotional items in attendee bag
  • Other considerations negotiable

Naming rights for attendee parties ("Come to the Ask.com party!") and the like are the sorts of sponsorship terms you'd expect for a PGA Golf Tournament, not from a volunteer-driven encyclopedia claiming to offer the public neutral articles on these selfsame sponsors. (For reference, $40,000 is less than 0.1% of the WMF's annual revenue.) Andreas JN466 17:56, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I share some of Jayen466's concerns on sponsorship. --NaBUru38 (talk) 12:48, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If you're going to have an expensive annual conference like Wikimania, the money needs to come from somewhere. A fair chunk of the funding has apparently come from sponsors this year, but sponsors don't usually hand out bags of money "for free". For what it's worth, I don't think that the amount of advertising sponsorship is excessive at all. Lankiveil (speak to me) 08:22, 4 August 2013 (UTC).[reply]
The way I read the article, the WMF funds most of the conference anyway, and advertisers at most "top up" the funding. The Foundation took something like $50 million this year in revenue. It's well within the Foundation's means to pay for Wikimania outright, rather than turning it into a billboard. Andreas JN466 12:37, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]