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- Fantastic to hear about the video player. Now all we need to do is increase the maximum file size that the servers accept for .ogv files so that we can upload longer and higher quality segments. For your next media player overhaul, may I suggest the horribly dysfunctional player for audio recordings? This is also Sven Manguard 14:43, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- I believe TMH also changes the audio player (but don't quote me on that). Bawolff (talk) 19:59, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- THM does in fact update the audio player as well. It outputs the <audio /> tag in the html output. The player is then rewritten by the javascript library, and you can even associate text tracks with audio files for timed display of audio text content with wiki links ( if desired ) mdale (talk) 20:26, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- It does! I'm so happy. I wonder why I was seeing the new video player two days before I was seeing the new audio player though. Sven Manguard Wha? 22:05, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
- Any reason you linked to gossamer-threads rather than lists.wikimedia.org? - David Gerard (talk) 14:58, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- I've done it that way since I took over writing the Tech Report full time (i.e. for the last two and a half years); I'm pretty sure I inherited it from one of my predecessors. In any case, I read wikitech-l on Gossamer-Threads, so it's more work to track down the pipermail URLs (which we know can change from time to time) than just leave the neatly threaded Gossamer-URLs. - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 20:14, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- The UI at http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/ (etc) is awful. The mirror at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/ is far from perfect, but it is much better. Why do so many techies put up with such poor UI for their discussions?! (Similar issues apply to talk pages, where newbies would benefit from simple in-place replies, like those implemented on Reddit.) Are there no better off-the-shelf alternatives for viewing threaded discussions on the web? Ajax ought to make browsing mailing lists much easier. — Richardguk (talk) 21:52, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- For the most part, techies don't. Most technical types subscribe to the mailing list, and read the messages in the email client of their choice. --Carnildo (talk) 22:40, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- The UI at http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/ (etc) is awful. The mirror at http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/ is far from perfect, but it is much better. Why do so many techies put up with such poor UI for their discussions?! (Similar issues apply to talk pages, where newbies would benefit from simple in-place replies, like those implemented on Reddit.) Are there no better off-the-shelf alternatives for viewing threaded discussions on the web? Ajax ought to make browsing mailing lists much easier. — Richardguk (talk) 21:52, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- I'd add that gossamer links are probably more stable than pipermail's, which are sometimes corrupted when the archives are rebuilt. guillom 13:10, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- I've done it that way since I took over writing the Tech Report full time (i.e. for the last two and a half years); I'm pretty sure I inherited it from one of my predecessors. In any case, I read wikitech-l on Gossamer-Threads, so it's more work to track down the pipermail URLs (which we know can change from time to time) than just leave the neatly threaded Gossamer-URLs. - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 20:14, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- Will this support WebM format? Hopefully there will be a blog post or new page detailing the new features in an easy-to-read format (and with pictures!) 155.201.35.58 (talk) 19:03, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- The player supports WebM and WebM is enable on test wiki for TMH - but I doubt it. That will probably come later. - Jarry1250 [Deliberationneeded] 20:14, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- WebM support will be added as soon as its enabled on commons, for ease of rollback we are enabling wiki consumers of commons first ( since WebM supports ogg ) but oggHandler does not support WebM mdale (talk) 20:22, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- "ability to pick where from a video the thumbnail is drawn" - I think ogghandler supported that as well, just nobody used it. Bawolff (talk) 19:57, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- So it did (does). You learn something new every day! - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 20:14, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- TMH adds support for setting a start / stop point in the video itself as well as choosing the thumbnail mdale (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:23, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
- What happened regarding the dispute to shutdown the Toolserver? I haven't heard anything about it over the last few weeks. --Nathan2055talk - contribs 16:26, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
- well, we reported the procedural state of affairs on october 15 :). the chapter's assembly will vote on the matter on november 24, regards --Jan eissfeldt (talk) 08:57, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
- Does this version support during-playback selectable resolutions (selectable files, really) for low- and high- bandwidth viewing? If not, is this planned? --Lexein (talk) 00:42, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
The embedded CC video is up for deletion on the Commons
[edit]See Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Creative Commons - Get Creative.ogv. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 00:16, 3 November 2012 (UTC) updated wikilink on 01:59, 5 November 2012 (UTC) - davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)
- Duly replaced. Best, - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed]
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