Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Usability/HTML

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Cleanup request

Seriously, this page is a disgrace, putting it mildly. Its very first line (now below a warning) was:

<div style="float:right;">__TOC__</div>

This inline CSS has no effect on old browsers, for a backwards compatible ToC floating right you'd need something like:

{| align="right"
|
__TOC__
|}

Details TBD. Actually I think it's a fundamentally bad idea to overwrite the general look and feel of Wikipedia pages with a ToC near the upper left corner of a page. One apparently accepted method is a navigation box floating to the right of the lead section and ToC, and maybe extending further down floating to the right of an intro section. Until it finally gets out of hand clobbering the main content depending on the used browser, the moment where it should be deleted for good.

Worse, the page states that Wiki markup is generally better than XHTML hacks: I'd second this, so why give an unnecessarily bad example in the very first line of the page? -- Omniplex 20:43, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That inline CSS is not supposed to have an effect on old browsers. There's a reason people no longer use tables, even though "old browsers" may not accept CSS. Wiki markup is the use of italics markers and the like that convert to good, proper html. You advocate putting the ToC table inside another table in order to 'float' it right. That use of markup is unacceptable, because it converts to incorrect html. You're trying to use tables for layout under the premise that 'old browsers' (ancient browsers) won't conform to now-established standards. That's ok. The ToC won't become right-aligned. No problem. It's backwards compatible through degradation. –M^T 22:05, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Horizontal lists

Many pages have lists which, to save space, run horizontally (horizontal list example). These are not, currently, marked up as HTML lists. Can something be done to create a method for marking up proper lists, and styling them to be in-line, without bullets? Andy Mabbett 23:14, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Inline microformats and other HTML markup

Could the participants of this project please review the work of Wikipedia:WikiProject Microformats? I'm specifically worried of them introducing microformat html markup in wikitext as such (like the microformat markup additions of [1]) and with single purpose inline microformat templates (such as used on [2] and [3]). There has been discussion of them at Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not#Microformats and Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 June 10#Inline_microformat_templates. Please note that this request is only about microformat markup in articles directly, as it introduces special purpose keywords to articles that most editors can't subsequently edit, not microformats in general. --Para 22:56, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]