Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains/Operations task force

Sorting everything out!

A lot of discussion has gone on in many different article talk pages about how to sort and talk about various railroad methods of operation/signalling practices/safeworking.

Here are the articles I see that have the potential for significant overlap:

• Australian railway signalling
• British absolute block signalling
• Rail transport operations
• Railway signal (note that I think this article was finally improved by narrowing its focus; however, I'm including it here for discussion purposes)
• Railway signalling (The Big Kahuna article: I wonder if we should just rid ourselves of this article altogether and direct all content to individual country articles)
• Token (railway signalling)
• UK railway signalling
• British railway signals
• Safeworking

Here are other articles that are related to the subject:

• Automatic Train Control
• Distant signal
• Home signal
• Norwegian railway signalling
• Radio Electronic Token Block
• Swedish railway signalling
• Signal box
• Integrated Electronic Control Centre
• Cab signalling

In addition, here are the category pages related to this subject (it seems there is overlap even within the categories!). (In order to display the links instead of adding this page to the categories themselves, I had to link to the talk pages--once there, click the "Category" tab at the top to see the list of articles in the category.)

• Category talk:Operations task force articles
• Category talk:Rail transport operations
• Category talk:Railway signalling

Maybe this is the place to bring our discussion. And feel free to join the Operations task force! cluth 05:45, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Another article with considerable subject overlap is the confusingly-titled "Railway switching networks". Signalhead 16:32, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

(Aside) - There are two simple ways to link to category pages: put a colon before the namespace like [[:Category:Rail transport operations]], or use the {{cl}} template like {{cl|Rail transport operations}}.

(back on topic) - The Category:Operations task force articles is the generic article list category that is used by the {{TrainsWikiProject}} template when operations=yes is included in the template call. So this category should conceivably hold all of the articles, categories, templates, images and whatever else that is within this task force's scope. Slambo (Speak) 18:47, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

The general article on railway signalling will be visited by uninformed beginners who want a basic overview. As it is at present it will only scare them away. I agree with other contributors that it should be thinned down substantially and confine itself to principles. The detail of individual signalling systems, and individual countries' systems to implement them, should be on separate pages because there is too much detail difference.

Remember these pages are not for us (who already know about this) but for some less informed person. Too much detail early on will merely confuse them, and will do us no credit. Afterbrunel 13:10, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Excellent resource

While looking to improve track circuit I came across this:

King, Everett Edgar (1921). Railway Signaling. McGraw-Hill.

As one can see, the entire text of this is available through Google books. Like most technical material of the area it is a little too focused on the details of the various specific products, but it's all PD, every bit of it, and surely we can mine it for material. Mangoe (talk) 17:19, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Please come and help...

Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:2017 Washington train derailment#Requested move 21 December 2017, regarding a page related to this WikiProject. Your opinion and rationale are needed so a decision can be made. Thank you and Happy New Year to All!  Paine Ellsworth  ^put'r there  12:32, 6 January 2018 (UTC)