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Buildings and architecture of Bath - help with GAN comments

Hi all, I put Buildings and architecture of Bath up for GA and a reviewer has started the review, making several comments (at Talk:Buildings and architecture of Bath/GA1) about the structure of the article and areas for development. If any of you had any time to take a look and make any edits or comments you feel are appropriate that would be great.— Rod talk 20:03, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Proposed changes to FT rules

We currently have one Featured Topic - shown above. There is currently a proposal to raise the percentage of articles featured topics need to have featured to 50% by some point (April or May 2010). If we take no action our FT will be "downgraded" to a Good Topic, but if we would like to keep the FT status we would need to get some of those currently at GA to FA before the new rules are introduced. It may also be an opportunity to revisit Geology of Somerset, which has been criticised for being as much about general geography as about geology and moving some of that content into a new Geography of Somerset article & getting that to FA (without loosing the GA for the geology article). What does everyone think?— Rod talk 18:19, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Infoboxes

The infobox has been removed from Montacute House with the edit summary "Ridiculous that a pointless info box listing anachronisms such as "client" and "design team" forces the important plan almost off the page", would anyone with thoughts on the use of infoboxes for historic buildings like to contribute to the debate on the Talk page?— Rod talk 23:02, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Help with photos

As some of you may have noticed I've been working on List of civil parishes in Somerset. I'm hoping to turn it into a featured list (it may be too long) & still need to expand the lead to summarise what is included, but could I ask for some help with the parishes I've not been able to find a suitable image for. If anybody can find a suitably licenced/public domain image, or go out and take one they are willing to donate to wikicommons, for any of the following villages that would be great - it could be the church, main street, bridge, pub or whatever is significant - if you look at the list you will see the sorts of things I've used.

Obviously any help with illustrating others articles at Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Somerset would also be appreciated.— Rod talk 21:45, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

  • If it's any help, I can promise to photograph Tickenham and Walton in Gordano by Christmas. I won't be able to do it for a few weeks, though, so I won't be offended if you find an alternative image source! NotFromUtrecht (talk) 14:03, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

As you may have noticed the web site for Somerset County Council has been redesigned. This means I can no longer find all of the population data from the 2001 Census which used to be available for towns (towns) and the parishes in each district eg Sedgemoor parishes (I thought the council had some statutory duty to publish these). I am also trying to find the articles about cultural heritage eg The page on rivers Rivers and the ones about Somerset Urban Archaeological Survey (many by Clare Gathercole) eg Wedmore. The examples given above and hundreds (possibly thousands) of others are links used as references in article covered by this wikiproject. I have been unable to find these documents or equivalents through the A-Z or search functions. I have sent an email asking if these have been permanently removed or whether they have been moved to different URLs and I simply can’t find them. Either way replacing or updating all of these URLs will be a massive job. Any thoughts about the best way to deal with this or offers of help appreciated.— Rod talk 08:59, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Partial solution - while working on List of civil parishes in Somerset‎ a peer reviewer pointed me to WebCite which has a copy of the population data. The folowing links for population data can be used:
I haven't checked the Somerset Urban Archaeological Survey etc yet & if I hear from Somerset County Council about these links I will add more here.— Rod talk 22:05, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
As I'd had not response to the email I rang them and spoke to a helpful member of staff who advised that the Somerset Intelligence Network is a useful source for statistical information etc. He also suggested replacing www. with www1. in URLs. They are working to restore the Somerset Urban Archaeological Survey pages etc but if we have other queries he will try to address them. I will email him about this wikiproject & he might even answer here.— Rod talk 11:02, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Page numbers for books used in River Parrett FAC

As you may have noticed River Parrett is currently a featured article candidate. On the review one of the reviewers has noticed that several books are lacking page numbers. If you have any of the books below would you be willing to check the page numbers for the claims made in the article?

  • Hadfield, Charles (1967). The Canals of South West England. David and Charles. ISBN 978-0715341766. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
  • Robinson, Stephen (1992). Somerset Place Names. Dovecote Press. ISBN 1874336032. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
  • Waite, Vincent (1964). Portrait of the Quantocks. London: Robert Hale. ISBN 0709111584. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
  • Nicholson Waterways Guide, Volume 7, (2006), Harper Collins Publishers, ISBN 0-00-721115-5
  • Cumberlidge, Jane (1998). Inland Waterways of Great Britain (7th ed.). Imray Laurie Norie and Wilson. ISBN 0-85288-355-2.

Any help appreciated.— Rod talk 21:20, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

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? Collaboration - towns to get to GA

I've just added onto the project page a proposal for a collaboration to bring all settlements in Somerset with over 5000 population to GA standard ie: Bridgwater, Burnham-on-Sea, Chard, Cheddar, Clevedon, Crewkerne, Frome, Glastonbury, Keynsham, Midsomer Norton, Minehead, Nailsea, North Petherton, Portishead, Radstock, Shepton Mallet, Street, Taunton, Wellington, Wells, Weston-super-Mare, Yeovil.

I know there are a lot of articles but they are all C or B class and it shouldn't be too much work to get them to GA. If anyone would like to collaborate on improving one or more of these articles, just say. If several people decided to work on the same article it would make it a lot easier.— Rod talk 19:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Somerset Urban Archaeological Surveys

You may have seen Rod updating some links to the Somerset Urban Archaeological Surveys which have moved to a new home. These were previously hosted at a different section of Somerset.gov.uk, but have now moved location - bringing everything together in one useful page. It is worth taking a look as it contains a ton of referenceable material relating to towns and villages in the county. --Simple Bob (talk) 17:32, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Mendip Hills will be on main page tomorrow (Mon 1st Mar)

I've just found out that Mendip Hills will appear on the front page tomorrow (Mon 1st March). It is likely to get lots of vandal edits so any help in keeping an eye on it would be useful.— Rod talk 09:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

FAR

I have nominated Mendip Hills for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 01:16, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

This wikiproject is two and half years old

Its now approximately 30 months since WikiProject Somerset was created and, as project veterans will know, it has become my custom to do a review every 6 months. Previous reviews are available: 6 months, 12, 18 and 24.

WikiProject Somerset was proposed on 14 September 2007 by User:Derek Andrews with this edit. Within a few days the basic project page and templates had been set up and 1778 articles had been identified as possibly relevant to the project. Of these 4 were FA standard and 5 GA.

2 and a half years later we have a much clearer focus on the 2413 articles currently tagged for this project (quite a few having been removed as not relevant, hamlets merged into their parishes & others added) including importance ratings which are automagically included in the "current status" table on the project page.

In the last 6 months we have gained several new members and over 60 new articles have been started, with a few of them including Wells and Mendip Museum, Lansdown Cricket Club, Salisbury and Yeovil Railway, Templecombe railway station and Vivary Park making it onto the front page in the Did You Know section.

Two lists have been promoted to Featured list status: List of civil parishes in Somerset & Grade I listed buildings in Bath and North East Somerset. The second of these enabled Grade I listed buildings in Somerset to become a featured topic. Our other featured topic Physical geography of Somerset is under threat as the rules about the percentage of FAs and GAs have changed and one of the GA articles included needs to get promotion to FA.

Mendip Hills appeared as Today's Featured Article on 1 March and was immediately nominated for Featured Article Review. This is ongoing at Wikipedia:Featured article review/Mendip Hills/archive1 please contribute if you can. River Parrett was nominated at WP:FAC but didn't receive any support votes (or opooses) before the nomination was closed. It has recieved further work and is almost ready for renomination.

Articles which achieved Good article status include: Buildings and architecture of Bath, Grade I listed buildings in Somerset, Frome, Somerset, Hugh of Wells, Shepton Mallet and Taunton. Midsomer Norton is currently undergoing a review for GA status (help appreciated) and Portishead, Somerset has also been nominated.

There have been improvements to a range of other articles, as shown in the table below:

Summary table, showing state at Sept 07, Feb 08, Sept 08, March 09 & Sept 09

Date Number of articles
FA FL A GA B C Start Stub Unassessed Total Lists cleanup
Sept 2007 4 - 0 5 4 - 4 1 1760 1778 - -
1 Feb 2008 8 - 0 12 67 - 607 985 0 1691 12 -
8 Sept 2008 9 - 0 17 73 18 644 1027 0 1802 14 149
1 Mar 2009 8 3 0 21 66 56 1005 608 0 1794 27 217
1 Sept 2009 8 9 0 24 63 77 1099 850 0 2153 23 122
1 Mar 2010 8 11 0 29 64 98 1118 904 0 2410 22 30

In the summary table above Featured Lists have now been separated from Featured articles and class C was only introduced in autumn 2008.

The Cleanup listing for this project has been tackled to a large extent - falling from a maximum of over 200 articles to it's current 30 - however this has not been updated for a long time and will increase when the bot next runs.

Articles rated top importance eg Geology of Somerset, Economy of Somerset & Culture of Somerset still need improvement and expansion. There are 121 articles still needing photographs (shown at: Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Somerset) so if anyone has a digital camera and time to visited these sites that would be useful. There are still several requests for articles, on the "to do" list, and loads of other articles still need work.

A recent push has been to improve the major settlements (I suggested those with populations over 5,000). As a result Frome, Shepton Mallet, Portishead, Midsomer Norton, and Taunton have been improved, but others still need work including: Bridgwater, Burnham-on-Sea, Chard, Cheddar, Clevedon, Crewkerne, Glastonbury, Keynsham, Minehead, Nailsea, North Petherton, Radstock, Street, Wellington, Wells, Weston-super-Mare and Yeovil. I know there are a lot of articles but they are all C or B class and it shouldn't be too much work to get them to GA. If anyone would like to collaborate on improving one or more of these articles, just say. If several people decided to work on the same article it would make it a lot easier, and if you would like to take the lead on improving an article as User:Peteinterpol did with Midsomer Norton and User:Dmvward did with Shepton Mallet then we could all help out.

This is one of the most active projects nationally, and the only highly active project in south west England (as shown in the table drawn up as part of the review of WikiProject England) and we are doing quite well in achieving the projects aims. However I would welcome any comments on the progress of this wikiproject so far & areas or priorities for further work.— Rod talk 21:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

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Cleanup listing

Wikipedia:WikiProject Somerset/Cleanup listing has just been updated by a bot, for the first time in months. This means there are a lot more Somerset articles listed needing cleanup (finding references, dealing with weasel words, adding coordinates etc) - I've made a start on some of them but any help would be appreciated.— Rod talk 21:44, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Photo help

Now that the weather is getting a bit better and members of this wikiproject may be out and about, can I request people take a camera to help illustrate wikipedia articles? I'm particularly thinking of the 96 listed on Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Somerset - if you want to see which ones might be near you click on the Google or Bing maps links top right of that page. I'm aware that not everything which would be improved by a photo has been tagged so if you know of Somerset articles which would benefit from a picture please add {{reqphoto|in=Somerset}} to the talk page to make them appear in that category & on the maps. Thanks — Rod talk 14:58, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Possibly related to this, some time ago a whole bunch of photos were migrated across to Wikimedia Commons from Geograph UK. In many cases the Commons categories that were established have not been linked across to the corresponding Wikipedia article. This is really easy to do - just find the category (which often has the same name as the article on Wikipedia e.g. Bridgwater and place the {{commonscat}} template at the top of the external links section of the Wikipedia article. Shout if you need help! As to Rod's point above, do go take a look at the relevant Commons categories to see what new photos have been added. --Simple Bob (talk) 15:14, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Mendip Hills FAR - help for the next week

Mendip Hills has now been at Featured article review since it appeared on the front page just over a month ago. I and others have dealt with the vast majority of issues raised, however there is still some discussion about the quality and appropriateness of some of the references - see Wikipedia:Featured article review/Mendip Hills/archive1. I am going to be away for the next week, so could others take a look and respond to any queries so that it is not "demoted" before I get back. Thanks — Rod talk 10:54, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'll add it to my watch list & keep an eye on it. Pyrotec (talk) 10:57, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks - I may be awya for a lot longer due to flight cancellations.— Rod talk 14:54, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Well if you are flying to Bristol, you won't be back much before Wednesday (as of this morning no flights before 1 pm Monday, but the weather forecast is no winds, so the dust clouds are not likely to disperse). 16:21, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Meeting in Bristol

Hi this is Steve Virgin from the Board of Wikimedia UK

I am a fellow Bristolian

We have a Wikimedia Conference in town this weekend

We were getting some of the Bristol Project Wikipedians together at the Watershed on Saturday night for a Wiki Meet at around 6.30pm.

This is a good opportunity to meet people from the national Chapter, other Chapters from around the world and from the Wikimedia Foundation. There is a bar tab to help proceedings and we would be very keen to see you there.

RSVP - let me know if you are able to come and feel free to invite any other local Wikipedians in Bristol

Steve virgin (talk) 21:45, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Further details (& RSVP) are at Wikipedia:Meetup/Bristol 1.— Rod talk 08:30, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Somerset towns to GA - help please

Back in January when I suggested trying to get all settlements over 5000 population to GA, I hadn't really looked at what was involved. Bridgwater, Burnham-on-Sea, Frome, Midsomer Norton, Portishead, Radstock, Shepton Mallet, Taunton, Wells, Weston-super-Mare and Yeovil have so far been promoted and Wellington is currently nominated. Thanks to everyone who has helped with these. Clevedon, Keynsham and Minehead are nearly ready to go but still include citation needed tags - can anyone help with sourcing the marked claims in those articles?

Those were the easiest ones as the articles were in the best state before we started. The ones that are left: Chard, Cheddar, Crewkerne, Glastonbury, Nailsea, North Petherton, Street and Yatton will require more work - would anyone be willing to identify one of these and volunteer to take the lead on making them compliant with the guidelines at WP:UKCITIES and the Good article criteria?— Rod talk 07:59, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Castle Hotel, Taunton‎‎

Castle Hotel, Taunton‎‎ is to me an non-notable article ripe for deletion. It *used* to have some famous chefs working there, it *used* to have a Michelin star, it *used* to have 3 AA Rosettes but now it has none of those. Its only claim to notability now is that it is located in a Grade I listed building which is part of Taunton Castle. Would anyone here support me if I nominated the article for deletion, proposing that the listed building stuff be incorporated into the Taunton Castle article? --Simple Bob (talk) 10:15, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Not sure on this one. The Castle Bow is the grade I listed building which is definitely notable and needs to be included somewhere (& if it is anywhere else Grade I listed buildings in Taunton Deane needs to be updated). The hotel itself is grade II listed (see EH listing) & does have some media coverage, which is one of the criteria for notability.— Rod talk 10:49, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
I hadn't realised the hotel itself was listed. That changes things. Perhaps I'll just work to tone down the hotel-specific content which seemed to have a flurry of activity yesterday. --Simple Bob (talk) 11:26, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

River Parrett at FAC

Just to let you know River Parrett has been nominated for Featured Article status and discussion is ongoing at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/River Parrett/archive2. It would be great if anyone had any comments.— Rod talk 19:49, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Nice Somerset pictures on Flickr

Somerset-based photographer Ian Sherlock has some really nice pics taken around the county on his Flickr account. All the pics have WIkimedia Commons compatible licences meaning that they can be uploaded and added to articles here. I would encourage you to take a look and see if anything grabs your fancy.

If you want to upload from Flickr to Commons then I can highly recommend Bryan's flickr web tool which makes uploading really easy. Shout if you need help using it. --Simple Bob (talk) 09:07, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

British Museum prize

The British Museum is offering 5 prizes of £100 (≈$140USD/€120) at their shop/bookshop for new Featured Articles on British Museum related topics - in any Wikipedia language edition. Ideally the subjects will be articles about collection items.

The English-Wikipedia page WP:GLAM/BM is the clearing house for the BM's involvement with Wikipedia

They suggest a good place to start is at the British Museum's "highlights" page and sort "by culture" or "by place" relevant to your own culture/history/language. I did this & searched for Somerset. One of the hits was about the Sweet Track which was a pretty poor article for such a significant feature of the county. I've made a start on improving it & if anyone fancied helping that would be great (we could share the prize :-) Obviously if others have ideas for BM related articles relevant to thiss project we could look at improving them as well.— Rod talk 20:40, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Somerset wikiproject is now 3 years old

Its now approximately 36 months since WikiProject Somerset was created and, as project veterans will know, it has become my custom to do a review every 6 months. Previous reviews are available: 6 months, 12, 18, 24 and 30.

WikiProject Somerset was proposed on 14 September 2007 by User:Derek Andrews with this edit. Within a few days the basic project page and templates had been set up and 1778 articles had been identified as possibly relevant to the project. Of these 4 were FA standard and 5 GA.

Three years later we have a much clearer focus on the 2492 articles currently tagged for this project (quite a few having been removed as not relevant, hamlets merged into their parishes & others added) including importance ratings which are automagically included in the "current status" table on the project page.

In the last six months we have gained several new members and over 50 new articles have been started, with a few of them including North Perrott Cricket Club Ground, Chard Museum, Saltford Manor House, Cheddar Yeo, Old Church of St Nicholas, Uphill, Banwell Castle, Frome Hoard, Shapwick Hoard, Somerset Cricket Museum, Somerset Women cricket team, Friendly Society Brasses, Simonsbath House, Burnham-on-Sea High Lighthouse, Burnham-on-Sea Low lighthouse, Burnham-on-Sea Round Tower, Portbury Ashlands, List of Somerset CCC players with 100 or more first-class or List A appearances and Murder of Melanie Hall making it onto the front page in the Did You Know section.

River Parrett and Sweet Track have become featured articles, while List of museums in Somerset, List of civil parishes in Somerset and List of Somerset CCC players with 100 or more first-class or List A appearances became a featured lists. Articles which achieved Good article status include: Ashton Court Festival, Midsomer Norton, Burnham-on-Sea, Radstock, Midsomer Norton, Clevedon, Keynsham, Chard, Bridgwater, Portishead, Wells, Yeovil, Street, Wellington, Weston-super-Mare and Glastonbury.

There have been improvements to a range of other articles, as shown in the table below:

Summary table, showing state at Sept 07, Feb 08, Sept 08, March 09, Sept 09, March 10 & Sept 10

Date Number of articles
FA FL A GA B C Start Stub Unassessed Total Lists cleanup
Sept 2007 1 3 0 5 4 - 4 1 1760 1778 - -
1 Feb 2008 5 3 0 12 67 - 607 985 0 1691 12 -
8 Sept 2008 6 3 0 17 73 18 644 1027 0 1802 14 149
1 Mar 2009 8 3 0 21 66 56 1005 608 0 1794 27 217
1 Sept 2009 8 9 0 24 63 77 1099 850 0 2153 23 122
1 Mar 2010 8 11 0 29 64 98 1118 904 0 2410 22 30
1 Sept 2010 10 13 0 41 68 108 1138 926 0 2484 23 74

In the summary table above class C was only introduced in autumn 2008.

The Cleanup listing for this project has not been updated for a long time and will increase when the bot next runs.

Articles rated top importance eg Geology of Somerset, Economy of Somerset & Culture of Somerset still need improvement and expansion. There are 162 articles still needing photographs (shown at: Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Somerset) so if anyone has a digital camera and time to visited these sites that would be useful. There are still several requests for articles, on the "to do" list, and loads of other articles still need work.

A recent push has been to improve the major settlements (I suggested those with populations over 5,000), which has resulted in several GA class articles and Crewkerne and Minehead are currently nominated. Backwell, Cheddar, Comeytrowe, Nailsea, North Petherton, Peasedown St John, and Yatton still need work. If anyone would like to collaborate on improving one or more of these articles, just say. If several people decided to work on the same article it would make it a lot easier, and if you would like to take the lead on improving an article as User:Peteinterpol did with Midsomer Norton and User:Dmvward did with Shepton Mallet then we could all help out. other areas for development, perhaps based on the most popular pages would also be welcome.

This is one of the most active projects nationally, and the only highly active project in south west England (as shown in the table drawn up as part of the review of WikiProject England) and we are doing quite well in achieving the projects aims. However I would welcome any comments on the progress of this wikiproject so far & areas or priorities for further work.— Rod talk 20:49, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Somerset articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release

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We would like to ask you to review the Somerset articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

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I think the person who commented must've clicked on the wrong link. Please use this link, it's similar but a little better laid out than the link given above. I'm still wading through the comments, so feel free to comment here. Thanks, Walkerma (talk) 03:57, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Portal:Somerset

Since its inception one of the goals of this wikiproect has been to maintain Portal:Somerset. This was set up in 2007 and I changed the articles, DYKs etc once every few months, but this was labour intensive and hadn't been done since 2008. I have spent the last week revamping the Portal so that articles, pictures, DYKs, biographies and locations are selected randomly from lists each time the page loads - hopefully making it more varied and interesting for readers. I have also changed the way categories etc are displayed. I would welcome any help or comments with this as I'm hoping to put it up as a Featured Portal Candidate before long. In particular does anyone know of any other nice Somerset related pictures which could be included?— Rod talk 14:27, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject cleanup listing

I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 20:28, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Portal:Somerset at peer review

Portal:Somerset is now up for peer review here. If anyone would be kind enough to add any comments that would be great.— Rod talk 21:38, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

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