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Family Values

Could you add the article Family values to your list of articles? I think it fits this project and certainly needs some attention. Thanks. Quinobi 20:39, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Feel free to add any you can think of! I've just added that one, thanks. violet/riga (t) 20:45, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Wow that was quick! Thanks a heep. I'm reciprocating your inclusion of Wikipedia:WikiProject_Community on that project page Similar WikiProjects.Quinobi 21:04, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Is it possible to add 2 things... 1: "The effects of local society on Family Values" and 2: A "genealogy" page? I feel that Wikipedians are a closer tribe than we think! Lee leewhite21@hotmail.com

Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 20:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 22:45, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Request for help

Hi, I haven't done this before -- asking a group of experts or interested parties to help on a particular page. I hope this is the correct way to go about it! If it isn't, please tell me where to look for help. I'd appreciate a knowledgeable eye on levirate marriage and widow inheritance. Should they be merged? Are they correct as the stand? Are they missing essential information that any sociologist would know, and any introduction should include? Thanks BrainyBabe 12:46, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Generational secret

 If any one would care to assist, I would be extremely grateful. My family, as I would gather others as well, have carried "Generational Secrets" through out many generations.  Having unburdened myself. One,being from an illegetimate family background. Two,having African American background (way too much for my Lilly White family).Three,not being the only transgender in the family. Four, having survived my own personal Dachau (incarcerated to be made straight in my childhood).Five, stopping the cycle of child abuse (outing my parents and their circle of friends).
 How many more people can be educated, expand their minds, by shedding their burdens of generations? Would I be mistaken that an encyclopedia of knowledge, is  a place to acquire more knowledge?  If my tottering inclusion might fit into this WikiProject Family and relationships,

please to let me know.Signora Estelle Wilson 18:58, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Category:Child molestation victims

The Category:Child molestation victims has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_July_31#Category:Child_molestation_victims.

The discussion opened on July 31, and will probably close on August 6. Cgingold 14:59, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Scope and Genealogy

Would you, the participants, consider surname studies, lineage analysis and genealogy to be in scope for this WikiProject? --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:00, 27 September 2007 (UTC) I am not a participant in this WikiProject

Indiscussion

Three natural laws of Human Gender
How to making baby’ gender for the prents bron before                 ( The baby’s gender decision is before sexual intercourse of parent. )

 There are three laws could dcide baby’s gender before , it could be interpreted some existing things

whom had been not understand.

The three borne laws as following as;
1, Basic laws : It was for breeding and balancing gender of Human.
2, Principal laws : It was for rising responsive and intelligence of baby and balance gender of Human.
3, Special laws : it was for increasing intelligence ant balancing between gender of Human in each nation. 
 Above items are detailed interpreted, but the basic condition should be that coupl must be of healthful body, normal sexy live and one nuable too tire.
 Laws for bearing boys or girls ;
 1, Basic law; 
   a , If a young male warmly pursues to a female with whole-hearted in love periods or after one year he is always of initiative in sexual intercourse, his wife will often bear a girl-baby within one year for first baby or second respectively.    

. b, Accordingly, If a young female warmly pursues to a male with whole-hearted in love periods, or after one year she is always of initiative in sexual intercourse, she will often bear a boy within one year for first or second respectively.

 This warm and initiative action effects not only the baby gender of first-born, but also of the second 
  and the third and follow born yet, as long as either of their mind have active sexual feeling before. Some male in amusement field married with female outside, she will bear first boy. Some female in amusement field married with male outside, she will bear first girl. So, should be raped to have sexual intercouse for a female, she could have pregnancied and surely a girl.

In love periods, each other of various kind miss and pay attention to opposite from his brain order, it could be change a part original male hormone for female in his body. This change could is of a few of female hormone secrete and around sperms adhered or mixed. It could cause some X chromosome sperms to attract and close easier with female existing X chromosome ovum each other as sexual intercourse. For example :

 a, Britain Prince Charles and Princess Diana borne two boys. First of all, she had been wished and required herself into the imperial family, so she was of actively acted in love period and born first 

boy soon after married.

 b, His brother of Britain Prince Andrew with Solar borne two girls. First of all, he warmly and actively pursue and act for Solar, so she born a first girl soon after married. 
 c,  On the society after general wars, the young female fitting marriage was always more than the young male. So most female shall have a trend to pursue young male warmly and actively or hidden. Under 

such circumstance in love periods, boys will be born more than girls after marriage.

  We could see much more boys born in China, after Anti-Japanese Invaded War (1937—1945) and 

The Civil Wars (1947---1949),The Korea War of 1950 and the Viet-Nam War in 1960’s as well.

d,  While wars end, First World War in 1914—1918, Second in 1939—1945 and Civil war of China
in 1946 — 1949 and so on, we could always find a great deal of boys have born within three or five
years, more rate than girls do compared with normal year. Because as the young male of fitting marriage is more than the female within one society group or country, after marriage their baby shall bear more girls than boys in first baby. Opposite circumstance, as  the  young  female of fitting marriage is more than the male, more boys shall be born by these couples.  The larger quantity difference of gender is power for balance gender in fitting marriage young. The one of the couple into warmly or actively pursuit action and mind will be to determine key of baby gender either in love periods and sexual intercourse after. 
Such as, finished the Second World War in 1939—1945, male and female rate of fitting marriage young rate : 

In Garmany, 1945 year; 20—24 age, 30: 100; 25---29 age, 34.4 : 100; 30---34 age, 38.3 : 100;

                    1959 year; 20—24 age, 102: 100; 25---29 age, 95.8 : 100;  30---34 age, 74.8 : 100;
       In Japon,      1945 year; 20—24 age, 58.8: 100; 25---29 age, 57 : 100;  30---34 age, 68.3 : 100;
                   1959 year; 20—24 age, 100.3: 100; 25---29 age,99.3 : 100;  30---34 age, 97.2 : 100;
                  ( From; Demographic yearbook United nations 1960, But it was calculated simply. )

After fourteen years, fitting marriage young rate above two nations was decreased and gradually to balance between male and female. So, every new family shall be a power and new cell to push balance and evolution for human gender in any nation or group. These new-born boys often balance and fill up the lost number of male whom died in war. Owing to boys quickly increased in a short time, it could be prompt taken part in the structural balance between male and female, as it had broken during the war. However, the age proportion would not be perfect and coordinated. To use the basic law, it could be explained some tkings; a , After natural and man-made calamities, male and female quantity different could be quickly balanced in any nations or groups.

       b, In nations of more than a wife or social system permitted, total male and new boy quantity were often over balance rate, where compared with normal nations was of one wife one husband. i
      c, It same was able to explain , new boys more than girls in some dynasty family at east middle or african area.
      d, New boys was always more than girls 2---7 % every year in any nation. Accordance with some

calculation, it should be normal about more than girls 4 % should be normal. To detail analysis; Should some war begun, it was more than 2 %; Should be living peace and stability preiods, it was more than about 4 %; Should finish the war after, it was more than 4—5 %; Should be of more than a wife social system, it was more than 5—7 %;

2, Principal law; 
 a, If a male RQ / IQ is higher than the female between the couple, his wife will often bear to girl in
the time of draining ovum. The condition is at will or impromptu only as their sexual intercourse.   
 b, If a female RQ / IQ quantity is higher than the male between the couple, she will often bear boy in
the time of draining ovum. The condition is same above.

( RQ = Responsive Quantity ; IQ = Intelligence Quantity;) . A lot of babies gender formed, as a general rule, they could be determined by the RO / IQ level of their parents, as long as the sexual intercourse is at will and in time of draining ovum. In general more times of sexual intercourse were making often under above condition and as if routine style to do.

In natural choice of human evolution process, the couple should be compared their responsive and intillgence which could be admited on sasis of selection.
a , As sexual acted neither initiative, if a young male RQ / IQ is higher than a female, more girls should be born by his wife or girl friend. Owing to RQ / IQ higher, the male hormone is of general more quantity than normal. The body glandular tissue should cause to secrete less female hormone for balance and control of higher male hormone toward normal level for keeping self-body motiom from himself brain order. This change causes some female hormone adhered on or added strength to X chromosome sperms. It will be very important that some X chromosome sperms attract and close easier with existing emale X chromosome ovum after love and sexual intercourse. 
 b, Same sexual acted neither initiative, if the young female RQ / IQ is higher than the male, more boys should be born by herself. Owing to RQ / IQ higher, the female hormone is general more quantity than normal. The body gland shall cause to secrete less male hormone and testosterone for balance and control higher female hormone toward normal level for keeping self-motion from her-self brain order. This change causes less male hormone and testosterone adhered or mixed on womb wall and ovum. 
 C, When RQ / IQ level is about equal each other, their family had have general boys with girls staggered.If first baby was boy then girls, the mother in general  was actively pursuit her husband in love periods. After a few years, owing to the father was of higher RQ / IQ than the mother, but her Pregnancy was general sexual intercourse and impromptu condition do as if routine style.      
If first baby was girl then boys, the father in general was warmly and actively pursuit his wife in love periods. After a few years, owing to the mother was of higher RQ / IQ than the father, but her

pregnancy was general sexual intercourse and any time condition do as if routine style.

For example :

a, Dr. Stanley Ho Hung-Sun --- Macao and Hong Kong Gamble King, he have two advantages

   of warmly pursuing girl and RQ higher, so he have daughters more than sons in his four wives.
   The fourth wife had born first girl then three boys. It shown that he warmly pursuing her and her 
   is young and strength which had sexual feelings required more than her husband.

b, Mr. David Beckham of Football sport, with his wife--Victoria had three boys. Because of more quantity exercise and training, First of all, he is very tire always but his wife RQ / IQ is higher than him. c, Britannic empress---Elizabethan, She had three boys and one girl, because her RQ / IQ was very higher than her husband.

   d, If you see some male and female always were of successful works and RQ / IQ characteristic for any matter as a leadership in government department or large private conpany, the female was of surely more boys, but the male was of surely more girls in them family.

   3, Special law;
     a, Should a young male have quantity of IQ measured over 130, no matter what initiative or passive
        the couple is in love periods or sexual intercourse, his wife always bear girls, more and even all.
     b, Should young female have quantity of IQ measured over 130, same no matter what initiative or
        passive the couple is in love periods or sexual intercourse, she will always bear boys, more and 
        even all.
    They are of great dedication to Human for rising populace intelligence with balance gender of female and male.
   
   a, If a young male IQ shall be of  the highest over 130 quantity, his wife will always bear all or  more girls. Owing to her husband is of the highest IQ, it could cause secrete more female hormone to balance and control the higher male hormone toward normal in himself body. This change could getless female hormone adhered or mixed on sperms or added strength to X chromosome sperms.  It will be very important and cause these X chromosome sperms with female element to attract and close easier into existing X chromosome ovum after lovely and sexual acted. 

   b, If a young female IQ/RQ shall be of the highest over 130 quantity, she will always bear all or more 
        boys. Owing to she is of the highest IQ, it could cause to secrete more male hormone and 

testosterone to balance and control higher female hormone toward normal in herself body.

  For example;
   a, Mr. Billy Getse – Chairman of MicroSoft, he should be of the highest level IQ , so his wife has 
         borne three girls. 
   b, Mr. Steph . Forbes Chairman of magazine (Forbes) in USA, he should be of the highest level IQ, so his wife has borne five girls.
   c, Previous Hong Kong Governor Chris Patten and Mrs. Lovender Patten had three girls. He IQ 
         level should be of the highest.
  d, Sir. Y. K. Pao. K.T---Ship King in Hong Kong, his wife has born five daughters. He was of the 
        highest IQ.
   e, Ms. Aung San Sun Kyi, The leader of Democratic Party at Burma, her IQ is the highest, so she 
        had two suns.
   f, Madam Marliar . Duz•Malenos, Brazilese, Her IQ was 307 more over 79 which was the highest of first record in the world. For ten years ago, it was report on news paper. She had four boys. 

   All above order determind gender from the couple brain, either mind, responcive or intelligence, it is oneself internal factor which is basic for any matter development. It shall be different for any exterior factor, such as hot or cold weather, food of all kinds and different water quality etc. Any matter change and develop that interior factor should be main and key determined, but exterior factor should be condition only to it in the world. Each other mind actively pursuit both of the male and female or IQ/RQ high and low difference, therefore it shall be interior factor and key determined. It could be decision baby’s gender and transfer IQ/RQ for offspring of opposite gender. One by one pair of female and male combined shall be Exterior factor. So baby gender had been determined before from love periods, actively sexual feelings and IQ / RQ compared. This is objective law of natural balance and control to keep a fair and stability society for gender structure and IQ/RQ field in long evolutionary process and natural selection. So that,  the gender structure had been carrying out principalbalance and stabilization in long periods. But the IQ / RQ of humanity was developing very slow and keeping on a position of a medium level in any society and national group or any count
 As if some gender could be incosistent with the law, but it was law yet.

a , Some male is very tire in work every day, or sexual acted more, or in mind pressure, so non-intrerist or listless to have sexual intercourse. Sh as some construction workers were of more girls in Hong Kong. b , Some female is of very tire every day in works or study or house works or in mind baby’s things. Even if her RQ was higher than husband, more girls were born in her family. c, A man of strength health with quick responsive, but he had one wife of thiner health and often ill. Becouse he was always sex-action initiative, so more girls were born in his family. d , A woman of strengthhealth with quick responsive, her husband had been thiner health and often ill.

    The family member were surely more boys than girls.
 e , Some male have requirement of strength in sexual filling and always actively acted. He was of surely 

more girls than boys in their family. f , Some female have requirement of strength in sexual feelings and always actively acted. She was born

  more boys in their family.

So, one is of very tire, mind pressure, requirement of strength in sexual filling and always ill etc, all mind and vigours variation shall be effected above three laws what is normal health and sexual in any self-body.

( Q.Y.Zhang --59.188.146.132 (talk) 04:30, 5 December 2007 (UTC))

( Indiscussion)

To Explore Innate Eugenics
 In any family among brothers and sisters, they are ofter of respective different at responsive quickly or slowly, bright and capable highter or general, character good or bed. Becouse their parents had different circumstances and around themselves in life, such as, often study or read some books, works to do or no works in hand, like gambling or play somethings etc. This different conditions before pregnancy shall effect respective development of future generation. 
 As a human science, innate eugenics had beeb exited in population life at any nations or groups. A great majority of people seem to be unable to understand it or unclear. What is called innate eugenics? It is foetus have not pregnancy in female body before, but some parents always wish that unsettled foetus shall be of collect fine gene. It is surely of different gene before pregnancy, should some parents do general hard works, but other parents are teacher. Innate eugenics is mother without pregnancy, but the parent had been studied works or read some books or always moving self-mind required or done general works. 

A, Analysis Innate Eugenics;

 Three circumstances of parent works should have different gene within the foetus brain.

1, Should the couple works in study science or computer soft works department, the foetus will be of good gene after pregnancy.As they are growing up to always like interesting reading, but showing bright and capable in all works. 2, Should the one of the couple works in study science department, another one do some housework, the foetus will be of general gene after pregnancy.As they are growing up to reading and works in general. 3, Should the couple works in general hard work, or one of no works in stand house, the foetus will of very general gene after pregnancy. As they are growing up to reading or working are showing general or non-interesting. Example; 1, Tow family of My classmates over forty years ago, there were four or five brothers and sisters respectively, all member could enter different University. After a few of years I knew their parent was teacher. Their body had intelligence gene. 2, As culture revolution in China 1966---1976, a lot of young female and male want to go the country or where 5•7 staves school. All people were do not reading books or moving self brain also. As some couple was married and pregnancy in here, these babys grown up, and shown to be poorer than general baby in city for reading, bright and capable. 3, My friend took me a story: He had twenty eight children added up of relationship who all were living in city.As they grown up then all entered different University in front and behind respectively. But other relationship had thirty children, who all were living in country. As they grown up, only one of them could entere an University. This story could interpret that responsive quick or slow-witted of parent brain where could be of effece children’s intrlligence. 4, A relationship grand-son, who was received by the one of seven famous brand Universities and given all scholarship in USA. His parent works were all computer soft works before marriage in American.

 Should any parent wish their son or daughter with innate eugenics gene, they must do something of moving brain before pregnancy. Such as, study thing, reading more books or writing something, analysis and learn some projects or cause for future generations.      

B, Principal law bron effect for innate eugenics;

 There are three bearing laws for breeding posterity to be of defferent effect respectively.
1, Basic laws: It was for breeding and balancing gender of Human only.
2, Principal laws : It was for rising responsive and intelligence of baby and balance gender of Human.
3, Special laws : It was for increasing intelligence ant balancing between gender of Human. 
According to sexual feeling priods is general in couple young, so first and second

foetus of pregnancy were easy under basic law case made. They are of breeding postrity duty only. Third and fourth etc. foetus baby could be general more under principal law case made. They are compared parent good gene and passed natural selection. So, first or second children are general of loyal and honest, but third and follower are often smart and responsive quick.

Above items are detailed interpretion, but the basic condition should be that couple must be of healthful body, normal sexy live and one of them unable too tire.
The Principal law condition is IQ count about within 90---110 each person, bur thecouple are general of higher or lower. This is easy formed different baby gender. 

1, If a male RQ / IQ is higher than the female between the couple, his wife will often bear to girl in the time of draining ovum. The condition is at will or impromptu only as their sexual intercourse. 2, If a female RQ / IQ quantity is higher than the male between the couple, she will often bear boy in the time of draining ovum. The condition is same above. ( RQ = Responsive Quantity ; IQ = Intelligence Quantity;)

 A lot of babies gender formed, as a general rule, they could be determined by the RO / IQ level of their parents, as long as the sexual intercourse is at will and in time of draining ovum. In general more times of sexual intercourse were making often under above condition and as if routine style to do.  
In natural selection of human evolution process, the couple should be compared respective responsive quick or slow and intillgence higher or lower which could be admited to enter the foetus brain.

C,Jew for world and chaones and wenese for China, they were of brighter and endure hardships and capabler hard work than general population in the world and China.

 We knew general popular have always balance of intelligence and gender in notions. But the Jew and Chaonse were of brighter than general population in the world or China. Because first of all, more of family had more sons and girls than normal family, also are of chancer to take physical exercise of strong-will and amazing will-power from their around. Secondary, more of them were made at will or impromptu to have sexual intercourse. So, their gene in brain was selected from parent of bright, responsive quick and work capable etc. 
 Because of historical reason, Jew’s blood linage had been revolt spirit, nomadic tride nation and cross-breedib in posterity. Cross-breedind could be fosteredremarkable works personality.
 More of Jew are very attach importance to education for posterity. So one by one of posterity have good gene and are able to trnsfer for sons and daughters. Secondary, their life is very hard and a life full of setbacks and misfortunes. Under this situation, children could be taken physical exercise of strong-will and amazing will-power work in postnatal period.
 More of Jew is combined education gene, nature selection of their parent fine gene in congenital with physical execise of postnatal life. So, some one is of very bright and capable. More persons of the bright and capable could be caused quality changed of whole nation. According to some infrmations, all excellent persons received NoblePrize were 680 Nos in one hundred years from 1901---2001, but whole nation of Jew were 152 Nos and 22.35%, whom population is 0.3 % of whole world only. (From book; “Why Jew is intelligence?” 2006 Central interpret edit Co.,In China)
 Chaones in China more of them were combinned goor gene selected with 

physical exercise of postnatal life. They were slightly less in attach importance to education for porsterity.So, some brilliant contribution had been less than Jew in the world. D,Should wish be of a great of qualified personnel at any country, it will be required innate eugenics and postnatal fosterin both ways.

“It takes a hundred years to bring man of ablity” is old saying in China. It say nurture true person must pass four or five from generation to generation.The person require ti have a duty contribute for societal evolution works in science, education, technique and life etc.. Should above good gene is of person quantity more than general gene, the society shall advence and improved in any nation or group, if not,a society will be fail. This is what we kwon from quantity to quality change.

Above we say what eugenics, it is not relate to handed down thruogh generations posterity. Some of them have more a wife in family. The rich posterity is of blight and capable works less than general poor one, whom third or fourth sons or girles.Such as, more of Jew received Nobel Prize were of poorer life front periods in family.More of children have nature selected gene and taken physical exercise of strong-will and amazing will-power work in postnatal period. 
( Q.Y.Zhang--59.188.158.76 (talk) 07:23, 13 December 2007 (UTC))

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