Wikipedia talk:WikiProject England/The West Country Challenge/Core articles

[Untitled]

Should Christianity in Cornwall be included in the core articles?--Johnsoniensis (talk) 20:45, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I would say yes (& in the other counties if similar articles exist). Are you happy to add it (to Politics/Law/Religion section)?— Rod ^talk 20:50, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What about the Army regiments like the Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry or the Devonshire Regiment? Those ought to be core 2 or so, I figure.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:15, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Seems valid to me and Somerset Light Infantry and Gloucestershire Regiment.— Rod ^talk 22:20, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Towns

Is there a specific rationale for deciding which towns to include in the list? At the moment it seems a bit arbitrary. For example, within Dorset, Shaftesbury is included but Bridport, Blandford Forum, Sherborne, Swanage and Wareham are not, despite having equally strong claims for various reasons. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 07:50, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I kicked this off and would agree that any such selections are always going to be subjective. The obvious criteria would be size (population) but that might exclude some with city status (eg Wells, Somerset), however there may well be other criteria (eg county towns, history, religious significance, economic activity etc). I would suggest you add those you think should be included and if anyone objects we can discuss here. The target I was set was around 200 entries in each of the sections & geography currently only has 99 so add away.— Rod ^talk 07:56, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I would say towns above a given population should be included like I did with 25,000 + for Wales. If there's ones with smaller population which should really be included for reasons you say just use common sense I guess.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:13, 8 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sports

I'm not really around, but this piqued my interest. Some oddities: why is Bristol Rovers F.C. a level one, while Bristol City F.C. is level two? The two clubs seem roughly equivalent to me, with City arguably the slightly more significant. The County Ground, Exeter is not that notable even in cricket circles, so probably shouldn't be included in this list at all. Conversely, Cornwall County Cricket Club and Wiltshire County Cricket Club should be considered as important as Devon County Cricket Club and Dorset County Cricket Club, though they are nothing like as notable as Somerset and Gloucestershire. Bath Rugby and Exeter Chiefs both look like glaring omissions. Harrias ^talk 13:07, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I've revised as per your suggestions.— Rod ^talk 16:44, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Architecture

Are there guidelines about the importance of these buildings? neither Killigarth or Lawrence House are buildings of great importance.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 18:36, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I added them from lists of Grade I listed buildings in each county. If they are not important take them out - can you also check the relevant county lists which I'm currently working on. There may be some things not important enough for the core list but relevant enough to that county to be on the individual lists.— Rod ^talk 18:42, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I see you are sorting these - you might want to look at Grade I listed buildings in Cornwall where there appear to be lots without articles + sub lists of Grade II* listed buildings in Cornwall.— Rod ^talk 20:48, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Balance between counties

While working on some of the county specific pages of core & missing articles etc I have noticed there is quite a discrepancy between the counties. This is most obvious (so far) between Cornwall and Gloucestershire. The number of entries in the core articles list is widely different between the two: Cornwall has 184 (which doesn't include all the Grade I listed churches etc which have recently been added to the core list) and Gloucestershire which has 65. So a few questions/comments:

Does it matter if there are widely different numbers of articles for each county?
If it does matter should we reduce the Cornwall ones OR can anyone find more articles to include in the core list which relate to Glos?
Please if new entries are added to the core list can they also be added to the relevant county list (to save me a bit of a headache)

Also, I note from my watchlist some Bristol related stubs have been destubbed today, yet they are already included at Wikipedia:WikiProject England/The West Country Challenge/Bristol. Is there any way to automate the process. Any comment or help with any of these appreciated.— Rod ^talk 20:34, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]