Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computing/Computer and Information Security task force

MBTA vs. Anderson

I would appreciate if anyone could lend a hand in fleshing out the MBTA vs. Anderson case. Madcoverboy (talk) 18:57, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Organzing hacking articles

The hacking articles are a bit of a maze! I've made the template {{Computer hacking}} to try and list them, but it needs some work. --h2g2bob (talk) 21:35, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Eh. "Hacking" isn't a very encyclopedic term. There's both a computer enthusiast and a computer criminal culture associated with the word. Much of the hacker stuff should be deleted wholesale as unsourced. Jclemens (talk) 23:10, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I dissagree, the articles that would fall under it ar definatly encyclopedic, and there are numerous printed articles and books that speak about them. Information Security is a huge deal, and deleting articles wholesale would be a injustice to the wikipedia community. Our mission should be to go out there and find the sources. Now, I have a part to play, what wikipedia guidelines should i familirise myself with when it comes to these articles? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sephiroth storm (talk • contribs) 00:12, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Allow me to clarify: much of the content of the so-called hacking articles should be sourced or deleted, while the articles themselves should be grouped under a more encyclopedic heading, like "computer and information security" or "computer crime". Jclemens (talk) 01:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

As long as the information is presented in the correct manne, I have no issue as of now. How about a list of articles we can start with? Sephiroth storm (talk) 02:27, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Merge proposal

I think that BlueHat needs to be marged with white hat. I've never heard of the term. It sounds like an EH though. As far as the conference information, It is definatly notable, and should be held onto somewhere, in case it becomes a annual event. In fact, think I'll add it to the list of Hacker Conferences. Outside of that it's either merger or deletion. Without a source, outside of the conference, it should probuly be deleted. Wanted to bring it up here first. Sephiroth storm (talk) 10:21, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I agree with that - both references refer to it as a hacker conference. It's already on the hacker conferences list, so I'm happy to see it get PRODed. There is one newspaper and one security firm who use the definition in their articles, but neither are big names. --h2g2bob (talk) 01:54, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Yep, I added it to the HC list, and nominated it for deletion. should be reviewed by tommorow. Can anyone here create a userbox?Sephiroth storm (talk) 10:55, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

What kind of userbox are you wanting? I can adapt existing ones. Jclemens (talk) 15:40, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Just a simple one, "This user is a member of the Computer and Information Security Task Force", that links to the project page. Sephiroth storm (talk) 16:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

How about one with a padlock superimposed on a computer monitor? Or can you think of a better image? Jclemens (talk) 19:02, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

OK, I finally did one. Animated GIF too cheezy? Jclemens (talk) 05:22, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

What about a death's head on the monitor? Sephiroth storm (talk) 20:10, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Do you have a link? Sephiroth storm (talk) 20:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Computer and Information Security

Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.

We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations.

A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.

We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection before December 2008, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 16:14, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I think information security is pretty important. DavidBailey (talk) 13:48, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Rouge software as well. Sephiroth storm (talk) 15:35, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Gotta say, I'm not sure any of these articles are really ready for a 0.7 version. They could all use serious work. Jclemens (talk) 18:12, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Such as? We have tons of articles, but few of us are working on articles. I can only do what I know, and I am still learning. Sephiroth storm (talk) 20:37, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I nominated Information security: it only narrowly missed automatic selection. As I read it, the requirements are that either (a) the article is well written and fairly important; or (b) that it is needed to provide context to other articles. I think information security provides context. Proxy server is also quite important, but has no references so might need to miss this one. --h2g2bob (talk) 22:46, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Sephiroth storm - I agree with you there; too much work, not enough editors :) --h2g2bob (talk) 22:58, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Article for Review

Could someone please review the WinFixer article, and suggest feedback? Sephiroth storm (talk) 17:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I'll take a look. There are a few editors discussing major edits on the talk page (Talk:WinFixer) - second opinions would probably be welcome. --h2g2bob (talk) 23:03, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Rogue software

The Rogue software article contains a list of rogue AV-AS programs. For the most part, most of the links have articles, but I could use some assistance finishing up, and adding new programs to the list. As you can see, on the articles that I created, I have tried to maintain a template for the articles, however, I have not reviewed most of the articles that were already completed. Again, your assistance is requested.

R/S Sephiroth storm (talk) 18:59, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Importance scale

I've been rating a few articles recently, and thought it would be really useful to have a proper scale (I've been guessing so far). I've added one here, but would really love some feedback on it. --h2g2bob (talk) 18:07, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Looks pretty reasonable to me. Jclemens (talk) 18:08, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

General updates

I've been doing some updates on articles, nominating a few for deletion. Imag091307, Blaster (computer worm), ect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sephiroth storm (talk • contribs)

Blaster's quite big, but there are lots of nonnotable articles on worms and stuff. You might want to leave a note for Wikipedia:WikiProject Malware, see if they can help out too. --h2g2bob (talk) 16:10, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I dont think I nominated Blaster, but I started going though a category, I'll see if I can remember what it was. Alcohol is a dangerous thing :) Sephiroth storm (talk) 17:54, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Move suggestion

I'm thinking of moving the articles in Category:Computer security specialists to a new category of Category:People associated with computer security.

The thinking behind this is that I would like somewhere other than Category:Hacking (computer security) to categorize hackers (eg: Gordon Lyon). I don't want a "hackers" category as that could get limited to the few people in the list of convicted computer criminals: there are some cases where "hacking" isn't proved (eg: Gary McKinnon) or isn't appropriate. Changing the name of the "computer security specialists" category makes it broad enough to include hackers (who haven't necessarily gone into computer security work).

Is "people associated with computer security" too broad? Should hackers be mixed with the specialists? Your thoughts welcome. --h2g2bob (talk) 23:48, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

It sounds reasonable to me, but I'm far from an expert on category names. You might just propose it at WP:CFD and see what others have to say. I'm good with whatever matches consensus elsewhere. Jclemens (talk) 23:59, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

That is a very interesting question. Category:Computer security specialists requires that the person be a "specialist" and we would need to define criteria for that. Category:People associated with computer security is one heck of a mouthfull, but could produce some interesting articles. Sephiroth storm (talk) 14:37, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Requested Article

I am requesting an article be created for Gaggle (computer worm). As I am biased in this matter, I should not create it myself. Main references after a brief review are: http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2004-040815-5555-99 http://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/default.asp?id=description&dtop=&virus_k=99689 http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99689.htm Sephiroth storm (talk) 15:25, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Ok, but... biased how? Please tell me you didn't write it. :-) Jclemens (talk) 15:59, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Lol, no, but I recieved a computer infected by it, am in the proces of making sure it truly is gone:P Sephiroth storm (talk) 18:17, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Ah, got it. You did say "biased" rather than "have a COI". :-) Jclemens (talk) 18:18, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

P Thanks, if you need personal accounts, let me know. :) Sephiroth storm (talk) 19:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Any update on this? Sephiroth storm (talk) 12:55, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Merge with WikiProject Malware to form WikiProject Computer Security

Hello All,

Though I'm fairly new compared to my fellow editors, I would like to propose a merger with WikiProject Malware.

As it seems, our work is always overlapping on Malware, and Security combined. WikiProject Malware is supposed to optimize malware related articles (that also including security utilities), whereas Information Security is our general field.

Instead of working together as separate projects, we should merge our participants and create a general party for the security field. The current system is dispersed and overlapping, whereas with a merge we can have centralization.

Please post your thoughts, and oppositions to the idea.

Kind Regards, blurpeace ^{(talk - contributions)} 01:33, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

• Comment I don't see any compelling reason for the merge. Malware is a very niche area, and related to computer security about like how parasitology is related to medicine. Jclemens (talk) 03:29, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
• Comment I'm not convinced (yet) that a merger is the solution, but I agree with blurpeace that we need to think about this more carefully. At the moment, there are mainly two kinds of articles in the Malware wikiproject:

1) Articles about techniques used by Malware

2) Articles about certain virii, trojan etc.

The first group of articles Malware actually shares with the Security task force, and the second group itself is (I think) not enough to justify an entire seperate wikiproject. Even though Malware is indeed a nice niche area, the way it is currently set-up is a problematic one. The articles that should characterize the Malware wikiproject have a heavy overlap with the Security task force, thereby creating 'redundancy'.

As I said, I don't know if merging would be the right thing, but I do agree with blurpeace that it is preferrable if something is done about this. --DanielPharos (talk) 14:19, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

• Comment It might be a good idea for Malware to becom a Task Force of a "WikiProject Computer Security" or something similar, that would insure that we can have the approrite attention given to Malware articles, as the Project members would simply contribute to the task force, instead of trying to have people contributing to seperate WP. I believe that there is a need for a WP dedicated to all InfoSec articles on wikipedia, and we can disam from there. Now the question is, is it WikiProject Computer Security, or WikiProject Information Security? Sephiroth storm (talk) 14:52, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for considering my suggestion. If Malware is going to be part of it, 'Computer Security' makes the most sense. I don't know: how many articles are there currently in the Security task force that wouldn't fall under that name, or is there another wikiproject those articles can be placed under? --DanielPharos (talk) 21:19, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I like both ideas a lot. It'd be much better to have Malware as a task force, and combine our resources to make things a little more centralized. Computer Security and Information Security both 'generally' have the same meaning, but Computer Security will make more sense to users .. and follow by what has currently been set out by other WikiProjects before us.

I believe most would fall under this category, but if needed .. we can move them manually and set up some form of work project that way. It's good to see that this is going to work .. lets hope it keeps moving this way. As a recommendation .. maybe we can have no leader for Computer Security? Just a general democracy instead of direct leadership and self-appointed leaders? I've been seeing this a lot, and some people like to go on power trips. A leadership hierarchy can be set up later on when we actually gain a good amount of users .. but for now it is unneeded. Kind Regards, blurpeace ^{(talk - contributions)} 21:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree with all of the above. I take a broad view of computer security's scope, so I certainly think both techniques and individual attacks are an part of computer security. --h2g2bob (talk) 02:39, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I've also left a note linking here on the WikiProject Computing talk page. --h2g2bob (talk) 23:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Creation of WikiProject Computer Security

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result was Approval for the Creation of WikiProject Computer Security. -- Sephiroth storm (talk) 01:34, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

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Okay, so anouther vote? Vote to create WikiProject Computer Security. We can create any task force's afterwards.

• approve Sephiroth storm (talk) 00:38, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
• Approve I believe it would better help the current structure. blurpeace ^{(talk - contributions)} 11:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
• Approve --DanielPharos (talk) 17:52, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
• approve --h2g2bob (talk) 18:02, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
• Neutral I really don't have strong feelings on this one way or the other. If everyone else wants it, I'll go along. Just don't ask me to do all the work. :-) Jclemens (talk) 00:45, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I proposed it over at WikiProject Council/Proposals. We need five votes for approval to start the project, Please cast your vote there. Sephiroth storm (talk) 01:48, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Some ideas on how to become a WikiProject

Here's some thoughts on what should actually change as we become a wikiproject

• Move Wikipedia:WikiProject Computing/Computer and Information Security task force to Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer Security
• Change the scope of the project - how do we want to include information security (if at all)?
• Edit the wording of {{WikiProject Computing}} - possibly both the following changes (or perhaps just the first one?)

  This page is supported by the Computer and Information Security task force WikiProject Computer Security, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to Computer and Information Security for Wikipedia.

• Change the name of the assessment categorys (under Category:Computer and Information Security articles) to Category:WikiProject Computer Security articles, Category:Top-class Computer Security articles, etc. To do this we should edit {{WikiProject Computing}} again. I'm not sure what else might be involved there - we might need to tell whatever bot updates the "Project articles" statistics, or some other bots. (We should also make the categories part of Category:Technology WikiProjects).
• Have a new shortcut (WP:CCISTF mentions task force and information security). How about WP:COMPSEC? WP:CSEC? WP:CSECURITY?

If we pick up the malware articles, we would need to do a similar set of things:

• Move Wikipedia:WikiProject Malware to Wikipedia:Malware task force (or another name?)
• Change the wording of that page to say it's a task force.
• Edit the wording of {{WikiProject Computing}} (and {{WikiProject Malware}}) to something along the lines of:

  This article is supported by the WikiProject Malware (Discuss) Malware task force of WikiProject Computer Security, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Malware on Wikipedia.

• We could automatically categorize malware articles into the computer security categories, so anything using |malware=yes in {{WikiProject Computing}} could also set |security=yes?

These are really just random thoughts at the moment, just to get the ball rolling with things a which could be changed. --h2g2bob (talk) 01:25, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll just reply in chronological order to your suggestions to make this easier reading.

1. I agree about having the page moved. We should probably have, and I'm guessing this is already assumed, both this page and WikiProject Malware blanked, and have a redirect in place to their respective locations (eg. WP:CCISTF -> WP:CSEC, WP:MAL -> WP:CSEC/MTF).
2. Well, we should look at our prospective name for guidance on what our project should encompass. Computer Security is a very generalized topic and may include Encryption, Information Security, Well Known Security Experts (Authors/Books as well), and Malware (including Security Companies). If you want to stretch it as far .. you can even include Digital Forensics, as a lot of lab analysts practice this on Hard Disks. Our name in its own definition may branch out to hundreds of different things within Computing.
3. I believe, in this case, we should create our own banner by modding the works of WikiProject Computing. Something along the lines of

Then we may have a switch such as So, in some way, I agree.

1. I wouldn't know how to set this up, and in this case I'm guessing we would call on a more experienced editor or an administrator to help things along.
2. WP:CSEC sounds good to me. Short, sweet, and to the point.
3. See my notes on 1.
4. I believe, in some way we should cut this up so that we have some people working in the main project and some people in the Malware Project. Having our resources cut to two projects diminishes the general output of our Project, so we should be picking specific things to work with. If I had to choose, I'd much rather build up our task force as Malware is my specialty.
5. We should combine the WP:CSEC banner with the WP:MAL banner to form some sort of switch as noted in number 3.
6. In general, I think a complete break off would be best for the project. Computer Security is a wide field, and I don't believe we need any assistance from other WikiProjects to gain peoples interests. There are many Security Experts here on WP and I'm more than sure they'll flock to the project to help.

Hope I've pointed out my thoughts and feelings about the development. blurpeace ^{(talk - contributions)} 00:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikiproject Computer Security

Description

WikiProject Computer Security exists to centralize efforts to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Computer/Information Security Articles along with removing the overlap of WikiProject Malware related business.

Support

1. blurpeace ^{(talk - contributions)} 23:35, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
2. Sephiroth storm (talk) 01:46, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
3. This is a rename and slight change of scope for Wikipedia:WikiProject Computing/Computer and Information Security task force, and is related to current discussion about the future direction of the project. --h2g2bob (talk) 02:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
4. DanielPharos (talk) 21:37, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
5. 06:20, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
6. yes, as a task force/subproject of Wikipedia:WikiProject Computing -- Tinu Cherian - 06:35, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

SWPP

• WikiProject Computer Security
• Wikipedia:Computer Security

/* SWPP — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.252.1.83 (talk) 23:05, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Project

We have enough votes to create our own wikiproject. I will be looking at the instructions at instructions for creating new projects.

parent projects:

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Computing
• (Any others?}

Definition and scope: WikiProject: A WikiProject is a collection of pages devoted to the management of a specific topic or family of topics within Wikipedia; and, simultaneously, a group of editors that use said pages to collaborate on encyclopedic work. It is not a place to write encyclopedia articles directly, but a resource to help coordinate and organize article writing.

WikiProject Computer Security is a collection of pages devoted to the management of computer security articles on wikipedia.

• Articles dealing with Software (Viruses, Adware, Spyware, computer security tools, ect.
• Articles dealing with Information Security issues.
• Articles dealing with:

Structure: WikiProject

Topic coordination:

• Task Force Malware- Articles dealing with Malware
• Task Force Information Security- Articles dealing with Comp Sec theories, tools, operationg systems, applications of comp sec, ect.

Sephiroth storm (talk) 20:57, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Please note the information I submitted in point number two, above this line. It should define what our name means .. if we are going to cut down on what we include, we should have made our name more suitable.

Also, it'd probably be best to call WikiProject Computing our parent project but we shouldn't have merged banners. The information encompassed by this project can compete with the amount of any other sub-project to Computing, and merging banners with every WikiProject can be annoying, having no individuality whatsoever.

Lastly, I wouldn't find a need for an Information Security task force. If anything Information Security is in such close relation with our name that it would be unnecessary and reimplying the same statement twice to have a task force of our own Wikiproject. Hope this defines a few things about Security. Kind Regards, blurpeace ^{(talk - contributions)} 01:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me, I haven't had time to read all of the information above, I cant comment on the name. As for a banner, we do not have to merge banners in my mind, we create our own, and any articles that fall under computing will have both banners. We will indicate on the project page that Computing is our parent, I think that is all that is necessary.

As for the IS TF, It's not nessesary, but we can use it to help orginise our articles, If im not mistaken, there were a few people who wanted to keep the CCISTF, I'm sure it can stay on a temporary basis, and if we need it, we can keep it. Sephiroth storm (talk) 09:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry if my post seemed a little abrupt. Was having some bad leg pains at the time and wasn't thinking at my normally optimal self. I was a little worried by Tinu Cherians comment, stating that WP:CSEC should be merely a sub-project or just a task force underneath WP:COMP. As stated above, Computer Security encompasses a lot more than just what a task force and a malware wikiproject can handle.

I'm not sure CCISTF, and I make this comment in good nature, will be necessary any longer once Computer Security is up. If Information Security includes Computer Security, and Computer Security is already in the name of CCISTF, then all the duties that were once CCISTF's would fall under the overlap of WP:CSEC. Malware would also most likely have no position any longer due to the initiation of the Malware TF.

Once again, I'd like to give my apologies for being abrupt. Let's work together in good spirits for the good of all Wikipedia, and not center on ourselves. :) blurpeace ^{(talk - contributions)} 09:17, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

A task force should not neccassarily be a subpage project. Many of the other subprojects of WP:COMPUTING exist as a wikiproject but just uses the Computing banner and other resources like with Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer networking -- Tinu Cherian - 09:31, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the apologies, I'm sure everyone knows you meant no ill will. for right now, why don't we work on creating the Project, then we can work out the organizational issues? Sephiroth storm (talk) 03:23, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. We've got a lot of work ahead of us, but I'm sure we can make this work. blurpeace ^{(talk - contributions)} 15:34, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Project page has been created HERE. Sephiroth storm (talk) 01:59, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Help

We could use some help with the project page and creating the assestment stuff that is requisite for a project and whatnot. I've Begun tagging CCISTF and Malware Articles, and Ill be working on improving the articles that i've tagged tonight. A lot of IS topics are under constant dispute, and we should try to reduce this by finding good references. Sephiroth storm (talk) 23:21, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

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Tag Standardization

I just noticed that to tag something as "Hardware" under the computing project I enter {{computing|hardware=true}} but to tag something as "software" I enter {{computing|software=yes}}. That can be kinda confusing and it threw me off the first time. Is there any way to standardize the tag so it either uses "true" or "yes" in all cases? Would that mess up the template on a lot of pages?Paulish (talk) 05:36, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, This project has been disbanded, and remains only as a reference. Responsibilities have been taken by WikiProject Computer Security. Sephiroth storm (talk) 13:50, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Odd that security would take that job, but I am sure that was discussed in depth when it happened. Paulish (talk) 01:13, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Request for comment on Biographies of living people

Hello Wikiproject! Currently there is a discussion which will decide whether wikipedia will delete 49,000 articles about a living person without references, here:

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

Since biographies of living people covers so many topics, nearly all wikiproject topics will be effected.

The two opposing positions which have the most support is:

1. supports the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, User:Jehochman
2. opposes the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person, except in limited circumstances, User:Collect

Comments are welcome. Keep in mind that by default, editor's comments are hidden. Simply press edit next to the section to add your comment.

Please keep in mind that at this point, it seems that editors support deleting unreferenced article if they are not sourced, so your project may want to pursue the projects below.

Tools to help your project with unreferenced Biographies of living people

List of cleanup articles for your project

If you don't already have this and are interested in creating a list of articles which need cleanup for your wikiproject see: Cleanup listings A list of examples is here

Moving unreferenced blp articles to a special "incubation pages"

If you are interested in moving unreferenced blp articles to a special "incubation page", contact me, User talk:Ikip

Watchlisting all unreferenced articles

If you are interested in watchlisting all of the unreferenced articles once you install Cleanup_listings, contact me, User talk:Ikip

Ikip 02:05, 26 January 2010 (UTC)