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2024–25 WikiProject Weather Good Article Reassessment

I would like to announce that a new task force has been created to re-examine the status of every GA in the project. Many good articles have not been reviewed in quite a while (15+ years for some) and notability requirements have changed quite a bit over the years. The goal of this task force is to save as many articles as possible. Anyone not reviewing an article may jump in to help get it up to par if it does not meet the GA requirements. The process will start officially on February 1 and will continue until every article has been checked and either kept or delisted. The task force may be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Weather/2024–25 Good Article Reassessment. Noah, AA^Talk 15:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles under review

1949 Texas hurricane (review)
Windsor Locks, Connecticut, tornado (GAR)
Wind shear (GAR)

Proposal: Segmented meteorological synopsis / impacts

On large articles covering multiple days of weather, such as Tornado outbreak sequence of May 19–27, 2024 and Severe weather sequence of July 13–16, 2024, the 'meteorological synposis' is a section of the article that covers nearly everything in the articles (aside from non-tornadic effects and individual tornadoes) and has far exceeded its role as an explanation of a meteorological setup in most articles of this type. A fictional example below:

Meteorological Synopsis

May 7 event

On May 7, an upper level trough brought high instability values to Oklahoma. Soundings indicated the presence of elevated CAPE and helicity values that would be supportive of severe weather. At 3 pm, the first line of supercells began and a tornado watch was issued. This line progressed eastward and continued organizing, and at 5:12 pm, a tornado warning was issued for Oklahoma city. An intense EF3 tornado moved through the outskirts of the city, injuring 4 and causing significant damage. Further north, severe hail over 3 inches was recorded.

May 8 event

On May 8, as the system moved eastward into Arkansas, etc.

Notice how the first section of it goes into the meteorological setup, the second segment details the evolution of storms, and the third is the impacts that almost never go into the Impacts section due to the way everything's organized. That's why I propose to segment articles not into broad Meteorological synopsis / Impact groups, but rather by day. For instance, the above fictional article would have a table of contents that reads like:

Meteorological Synopsis
- May 7 event
- May 8 event
- May 9 event
Confirmed tornadoes
- Oklahoma City
Impact
Non-tornadic effects

Whereas, for my proposal, the article would be organized as:

May 7
- Meteorological synopsis
- Impacts
  - Oklahoma City
May 8
- Meteorological synopsis
- Impacts
- Confirmed tornadoes
- Non-tornadic effects
May 9
- Meteorological synopsis
- Impacts

This will make the article much more cohesive instead of having to jump across the article to find events that happened on the same day but aren't the same type. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 15:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm test-running this proposal at Draft:Tornado outbreak of November 2–3, 2024. Let me know what you think. Departure– (talk) 22:09, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Climate of New York City

Make sure you watchlist the article, because barring some unforeseen occurrence, the .01” of rain in NYC will mark the driest month and October on record at that site and the article will need to be updated. 107.122.189.83 (talk) 23:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for High-pressure area

High-pressure area has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 13:48, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Northeast United States drought

Should that article be created? The drought is nearing historic levels. Pinging Hurricanehink, a resident of a drought infected area. 71.246.109.203 (talk) 21:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Two things, 71.246.109.203 (talk · contribs). First, I don't live in the northeast anymore. But two, there is probably enough information for an article. Why don't you create an account and try putting some information together? There have been record long periods of no rainfall across the Atlantic, and there have been some wildfires. Events like this remind me that we could probably use yearly articles for droughts/wildfires. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome, looks like 2024 Northeastern United States wildfires was created. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:31, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Track maps in tornado articles

Since I've recently been trying to implement DAT-based track maps within articles (specifically this one and this one), I think it'd be nice to have a discussion as to whether track maps would be necessary within articles, or if they take up too much space. If they are a benefit, then I wouldn't mind having a larger discussion about the use of track maps and the guidelines for including them. If there is consensus that they are beneficial, then I wouldn’t mind adding them to several articles, and we’ll see where it goes from there. Pinging @Hurricane Clyde:, @Hoguert: (who I got the template from), @Dylan620: (since they may be interested), @Departure–:, @TornadoInformation12:, @Tails Wx: and @HamiltonthesixXmusic: for their opinions. E_F⁵ 22:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I’d like to add @Hurricanehink and @WeatherWriter to that ping list.

And as for the track maps. It probably depends on the case. But I would support track maps in most cases. Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 23:07, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also @EF5, some of these people that you’ve pinged haven’t edited in weeks/months; and might not respond. Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 23:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

True, I guess they may still come back if pinged. :) E_F⁵ 23:21, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of articles are cramped for media as they are, and also it should be noted that some tornadoes (cough cough Lemont, Illinois, 13 June 1976) aren't straight lines. In some cases, like El Reno 2013, a map tracing a straight line between start to end points of a tornado may miss where the tornado's worst impacts occurred entirely. Departure– (talk) 23:14, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm in support of having some track maps for tornado articles and/or maybe outbreak sections. Speaking of cramped media, I've been reading up a lot on WP:Gallery and honestly, just like their example gallery (Women's suffrage in New Zealand#Gallery), weather articles can probably have some galleries as well. For example, the 2023 Rolling Fork–Silver City tornado caused like 15 instances of EF4 damage, yet only 3 EF4 damage photos are shown in the article (before, in, and after Rolling Fork). That said, instances of discussed EF3/EF4 damage are not shown. That aspect helps qualify images for a possible gallery, since it would not be just random images, but rather, images of items directly discussed/mentioned in the article itself. So, adding galleries for additional photos of places/damage directly discussed in the article would help allow more photos while also keeping the article itself not cramped with media. Adding some galleries also opens the door for track maps in the article itself (not in the gallery) and the gallery would free up space for it. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 23:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think a map could be useful if it was a tornado in a downtown area of a major city, where the map is especially important. I hate to say it, but if it's a random EF4 in some random city, I don't think the map is necessary, like in the case for the Cullman tornado. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:33, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Hurricane Paul (1982)#Requested move 30 Oct 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Hurricane Paul (1982)#Requested move 30 Oct 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Raladic (talk) 15:42, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:List of typhoons in Guam#Requested move 10 November 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:List of typhoons in Guam#Requested move 10 November 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Raladic (talk) 21:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Isles of Scilly, climate-related RfC

There is a Request for Comment at Talk:Isles of Scilly about the classification of the climate. The direct link is Talk:Isles of Scilly#RfC about whether Isles of Scilly are "Subtropical". DuncanHill (talk) 01:36, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

November 2024 Northeast Pacific bomb cyclone

Collaboration welcome at November 2024 Northeast Pacific bomb cyclone

---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:51, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for Hurricane Allen

Hurricane Allen has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:27, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:List of United States tornado emergencies#Requested move 19 November 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:List of United States tornado emergencies#Requested move 19 November 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Raladic (talk) 22:38, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]