Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/March 26, 2023
Tell All Your Friends is the debut studio album by American rock band Taking Back Sunday, released on March 26, 2002, through Victory Records. Forming in 1999, the group underwent several line-up changes before settling on vocalist Adam Lazzara, guitarist and vocalist John Nolan (pictured), guitarist Eddie Reyes, bassist Shaun Cooper, and drummer Mark O'Connell. They recorded the album with producer Sal Villanueva at Big Blue Meenie Recording Studio in New Jersey. After the release, they promoted it with various tours of the US alongside Brand New and the Used. Nolan and Cooper then left the group in 2003 and were replaced by Fred Mascherino and Matt Rubano, respectively. Soon afterwards, they went on a co-headlining tour with Saves the Day to close out the year. The album is the longest-running release of Victory Records on the US Billboard magazine's Heatseekers and Independent Albums charts at 68 and 78 weeks, respectively. Certified gold in the US, it has sold a million copies worldwide. (Full article...)
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[edit]Art LaPella, regarding this edit, i believe "shifted" was being used to mean "sold". here is one such use by nme regarding a musical subject, and here is one by reuters outside of the musical world. that being said, i was surprised by the wording used, but didn't want to change it unilaterally. seeing that you may have been unfamiliar with this usage of the term, i thought it might be better to simply use "sold" instead, as the article lead and body do. "shipped" doesn't necessarily mean "sold", so i would hesitate to use that word as a replacement.
courtesy pinging DannyMusicEditor (fac nominator) and MusicforthePeople (tfa/r nominator), in case the use of "shifted" instead of "sold" was deliberate. dying (talk) 04:40, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Can confirm, the word referred to actual sales and not shipments. The one million is a worldwide value. dannymusiceditor oops 05:14, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- oh, that is a good point, DannyMusicEditor. i had admittedly not considered the possibility that a reader could interpret the value as pertaining to u.s. sales only. would it be appropriate to clarify this by using the phrase "it has sold a million copies worldwide"? the blurb is already near the character limit, so to compensate, i think "Following the release" can be replaced with "After the release". dying (talk) 05:37, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- That's fine by me. MusicforthePeople (talk) 08:51, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- oh, that is a good point, DannyMusicEditor. i had admittedly not considered the possibility that a reader could interpret the value as pertaining to u.s. sales only. would it be appropriate to clarify this by using the phrase "it has sold a million copies worldwide"? the blurb is already near the character limit, so to compensate, i think "Following the release" can be replaced with "After the release". dying (talk) 05:37, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I was unfamiliar with the term and couldn't find it by Googling. Art LaPella (talk) 04:44, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- I chose the word "shipped" only because my best guess was that the strange word "shifted" probably arose by mistyping two letters of the word "shipped". Art LaPella (talk) 05:06, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
- no worries, Art LaPella, that's completely understandable. besides, if you were unfamiliar with the term, then i presume most main page readers would be too, so it is good that the blurb is being reworded. anyway, i've implemented the proposed change. (for future reference, searching for "shifted * copies" music gave me the music industry source above.) thanks, all! dying (talk) 05:56, 24 March 2023 (UTC)