Wikipedia talk:Sticky notes
Storing the data (on the page?)
[edit]Interesting idea. If this is to be done with just javascript, sticky note data would have to be stored in the actual wikitext of the page. The hardest part of this would probably be figuring out from the DOM what part of the wikitext the sticky note should be attached to. If they were just specific to an individual section, the code could just search for the edit section number in the closest edit link, and place the sticky note below that many lines beginning and ending with = symbols. Finding out where in the section to stick it sounds pretty complicated. (Just storing where in the DOM the sticky note was stuck probably wouldn't work; where would it go if the section was edited?) --Yair rand (talk) 23:52, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
- I am open to suggestion, but I think it would be great to use just javascript for this. I like the idea of beginners being able to use sticky notes, but more experienced users still being able to interact with those notes, how they appear on the page, etc - through the code.
- This would seem to mean storing the sticky note data in the text! Maybe we could code for a template "{{StickyNote}}" with parameters like "comment", "colour", "date" and "discussion" (for the link to the corresponding discussion section). That could generate the sticky note itself. Another parameter might be "ID" if my next ideas make any sense.
- Perhaps the highlight aspect of sticky notes could be accomplished by making changes to parameters recognized by background colouring? I imagine something like "<span style= "StickyNoteID:#4">" where #4 is the ID of that particular highlighting, which corresponds with a sticky note? Or maybe a new highlighting command, other than span style, so that everything stays cleaner. Like <StickyHighlight ID=4> with </StickyHighlight> or else just </StickyH>. Again, the ID parameter would tell the highlighting to refer to the sticky note to get information about colour?
- I have never been a programmer. I hope the above qualifies as a contribution to brainstorming :p -Tesseract2(talk) 19:41, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Other collected sticky note discussion
[edit]"I suggest this be linked to the liquid threads discussion page entries. When you create a sticky note this is mirrored as a new topic on the discussion page and the sticky note has a link to that topic. This should help keep the discussion on topic since each sticky (= discussion topic) is tied to a particular point in the article.The Sticky note could disappear automatically controlled by an algorithm combining how many other stickies, how long since the last comment on that sticky etc." -anonymous (46.2.22.2)
from the idea lab archive at the Village Pump
[edit]I think broadly making it easier for readers and newcomers to leave comments without having to engage with wikitext (so some form of Javascript input I guess) is a very good idea. And being able to leave a note attached to a specific section (or even paragraph/sentence/word) should make editorial discussion easier. However, the concern I have with this idea is integration with talk pages, where discussion should take place. I think any comments left should somehow (Javascript? Bot?) be copied across to the talk page. -Rd232
From the village pump on strategy wiki
[edit]"I think the idea has a lot of merit, but, like any complex and bold new proposal, needs to be thoroughly thought out before we can dream of implementing it. The strategy wiki is in a bit of a lull right now, so I wouldn't expect a lot of replies here in the immediate future, but I'll try to advertise this page on other wikis and in IRC." -User:Tempodivalse
From the village pump on wikipedia outreach
[edit]"...I love that idea, thanks for posting here. Please feel free to share your thoughts about what is needed to move it forward; I'll try to help, and I'd imagine others will as well!" -Pete (talk) 04:19, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
"I think that sort of thing is quite progressive and will help out to drawing more users forward as well as making the interface more user interactive and friendly." -Onewhohelps (talk) 12:47, 20 September 2011 (UTC)