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Does Major depressive disorder, a featured article violate WP:MEDSAY?

I have noticed that this article contains a long excerpt from Digital media use and mental health, which lists many systematic reviews and describes them in detail, for example:

• In April 2013, the Journal of Adolescent Health published a systematic review of 33 studies of adolescent girls that found a positive association between screen time and depression.
• In June 2016, Adolescent Research Review published a systematic review of 12 studies of subjects aged 11 to 21 years that concluded that while internet technology may provide adolescents opportunities to seek emotional and social support, the research reviewed did not establish that internet technology lowers rates of adolescent depression.
• In December 2017, Adolescent Research Review published a systematic review of 11 studies comprising 12,646 child and adolescent subjects that found a small but statistically significant correlation between social media use and depressive symptoms.

Do you think these violate WP:MEDSAY? Bendegúz Ács (talk) 18:55, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

@Bendegúz Ács, yes, I do think that is the kind of stylistic problem that MEDSAY says not to put in articles. I've blanked about 10% of the article for being out of compliance with WP:MEDDATE (this is a heavily researched area, so sources should be from the last five or so years), which will cut down on the stylistic work that needs to be done.

Overall, I wonder whether a complete re-write would be ideal. It might be easier to start over than to try to transform the existing catalog of published papers into an encyclopedia article. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:34, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

I also find this article to be full of excessive undue details that make it hard to read, so I agree that a complete rewrite may be the best way to deal with it. What worries me more than Digital media use and mental health is that so much of its subpar content is excerpted in Major depressive disorder, which is a featured article, supposedly "[one] of the best articles Wikipedia has to offer". There is a call for a review of that status in the article's talk page from 2022, and based solely on the issue I found, I could agree that it's needed. Considering that I don't have too much interest in investing more time in fixing the article, do you think the best course of action in this case is to submit it to a review? Bendegúz Ács (talk) 18:07, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

I think it would be faster to ask @Casliber about it directly. WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:02, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Watching high traffic articles can be difficult, especially when busy with outside endeavours for protracted periods. I'll try and take a look Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:57, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

(update) I have removed the offending section for the time being, due to it being in the wrong section of the article and in far too much detail for the scope of the article. The material should be distilled to 3-4 sentences and placed in either causes or management section. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

@Bendegúz Ács: thanks for highlighting this. Took me a while to figure out what happened. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:40, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks to you too for fixing it, this is a useful experience for me to understand both the guidelines and the editing process. Bendegúz Ács (talk) 21:18, 8 April 2024 (UTC)