Wikipedia talk:Long titles

RfC: How Should Wikipedia handle subtitles?

My opinion can be found on the page. superluser_tc 2007 December 19, 00:47 (UTC)

Two cents Subtitles should be bolded and included in the first line of the lead but should generally give way to WP:COMMONNAME in the article title. So I would say that Dr. Strangelove should be preferred over Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb and please don't ever change Robinson Crusoe to [[The Life and most Surprizing Adventures of Robinson Crusoe of York, Mariner: who lived Eight and Twenty Years, all alone in an uninhabited Island on the coast of America, lying near the Mouth of the Great River of Oroonoque; Having been cast on Shore by Shipwreck, wherein all the Men perished but himself. With An Account how he was at last as strangely deliver'd by Pyrates. Written by Himself]]. Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 03:10, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, of course page naming is going to be different from how the title is used in the article proper. It's stated that way in the MoS (WP:MOSTITLE). If this is added to that page, then it would be redundant to have the disambiguation at the top and in this section.

In fact, Wikipedia already has a really awesome convention for naming articles with subtitles at WP:Naming conventions (books)#Subtitles. Hm. Maybe it is worth mentioning that. superluser_tc 2007 December 19, 06:40 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved to WP:Long titles; redirect and shortcut created to WP:Naming conventions (books)#Subtitles. Miniapolis 15:11, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:SUBTITLES → ? – This article should be renamed and moved so that the title WP:SUBTITLES can become a shortcut/redirect to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (books)#Subtitles instead, which seems like a more useful application of WP:SUBTITLES. --Relisted. Steel1943 (talk) 05:11, 11 April 2013 (UTC) Steel1943 (talk) 00:59, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support as nom. However, I am unsure of what to name this article if the article is moved. Steel1943 (talk) 01:29, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – As I discussed in the Requested move discussion at Talk:Don't Eat the Pictures, subtitles aren't limited to books—movies, television specials, songs and video games may also have subtitles. Might be nice to have a consistent subtitle naming convention for all media. Wbm1058 (talk) 01:49, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If that's the case, it seems like this article should still be moved ... but then, at that point, where to point the redirect might be a topic of controversy. Also, it seems like the consensus at Talk:Don't Eat the Pictures#Requested Move is, in theory, in line with the current policy listed at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (books)#Subtitles, even though the topic at Don't Eat the Pictures is video media. Just some food for thought. Steel1943 (talk) 02:06, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support/oppose support moving this page, oppose redirecting to NC-BOOKS. "subtitles" are dealt with on several guideline pages. [1][2][3] ; suggest WP:Use full titles on intro sentence -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 03:47, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The advice at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (books)#Subtitles should really be added as a section to Wikipedia:Article titles (expanded to include other media), then this page could be redirected to that section. Alternatively, this page could be improved and turned into a subpage of the Manual of Style (e.g. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Subtitles. In the meantime, as a temporary measure, I support redirecting this page to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (books)#Subtitles. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 01:43, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support this move for now and SlimVirgin's first suggestion. Also in the meantime, perhaps a sentence at the target section "This applies to other media as well." --BDD (talk) 16:15, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support move. Since (as far as I see) nobody has proposed an actual new title, I suggestWP:LONGTITLES. Theoldsparkle (talk) 17:58, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. There actually has been a suggested title: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Subtitles, recommended by SlimVirgin. Also, I oppose moving this article to any title that is ALL-CAPS, such as WP:LONGTITLES; ALL-CAPS titles are supposed to be used for shortcuts. Steel1943 (talk) 18:55, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.