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Admin functions not showing up in 0.8.3
I don't have any idea why, but the admin functions aren't showing up for me in Huggle 0.8.3. Any ideas/suggestions? Thingg⊕⊗ 18:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- fixed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 09:16, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
0.8.3 cannot complete an AfD nomination
Let's see... it tags the article, creates the AfD discussion page, then stops working, forcing me to do the last two steps manually.
Happened twice on... two attempts. -- Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 04:43, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Same here... (the error message is the mysteriously useless "Huggle has stopped working" dialog). Calvin 1998 (t·c) 05:58, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- fixed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 08:54, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Weird Huggle edit
Can someone explain to me what happened here? -- Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 04:54, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I'm not 100% sure if thiswhat happened because I haven't looked at the code, but it appears to have run the page's existing text through a command like "string.toLowerCase" somewhere in the processing and apparently failed to restore/save the original case. Thingg⊕⊗ 05:41, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- temporarily disabled username reports as they seem to be broken -- Gurch (talk) 08:17, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- fixed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 08:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
login error
When trying to log in to meta: I'm getting the error, "Failed to retrieve user rights" . — xaosflux Talk 07:43, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- Listed as bug#116 — xaosflux Talk 01:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- Note: same problem on commons: — xaosflux Talk 16:21, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Feature Request - protection
{{resolved}} I would really appreciate it if we could request protection on Huggle. I don't want to have to exit Huggle, request protection, and start Huggle over again. Leujohn (talk) 05:36, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
- Why do you have to exit huggle to request protection, rather than requesting protection manually using your browser? — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 11:49, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
- You can, can't you? Or is that broken as well :/ -- Gurch (talk) 20:32, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
- Flase alarm, I found the button. Thanks anyway. Leujohn (talk) 10:50, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Welcome messages
{{resolved}}
Per discussion at WT:CSD#Suggestion for modification of templates Twinkle's speedy deletion notification templates will be changed later today so that they automatically leave a {{firstarticle}}
welcome message on the article creator's talk page if the notification is the first message they have ever received (i.e. they have a red-linked talk page). I'd like to do that with Huggle's templates too. I would also add a section header, mostly for conformity with the twinkle warnings. Any objections to that?
Cheers, AmaltheaTalk 16:04, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know, but would this affect huggle detecting the earlier warnings issued? I mean, it has to know what level warning was issued earlier in order to decide what has to be used now. Unless there's some problem like that, sounds OK. I'm fine with it either way. Chamal talk 16:28, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
- I'd only touch the speedy deletion messages, and they don't have levels. The user warnings already start with "Welcome to Wikipedia" and are OK, I think. --AmaltheaTalk 16:36, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
- I object to adding a section header because if you did that, Huggle would make 2 section headers every time it left a message. (The section header is speedy-message-title in the project config page if it needs to be changed). -- Gurch (talk) 18:38, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, you're right. I've created new notification wrappers at
{{huggle/db-notice}}
,{{huggle/db-bio-notice}}
, etc. which do contain a section header, and the conditional{{firstarticle}}
template. To prevent huggle from adding a section header of it's own, speedy-message-title needs to be set to an empty string.
I've just tested it (with some moderate hacks in the source code) and warned myself, once with an existing talk page here and once with a new talkpage here. These are the changes that need to be made to Project:Huggle/Config.
The old templates can then be faded out/integrated into the new ones once no one is using them anymore, i.e. has reloaded the project configuration.
OK? --AmaltheaTalk 04:04, 29 November 2008 (UTC)- I just changed it, and will keep an eye on it for a while. --AmaltheaTalk 12:44, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, you're right. I've created new notification wrappers at
Feature requests?
I have a sneaking suspicion they don't go here, but what the hey. I'd like to be able to mark pages as patrolled when I have a Filter New Pages list running. Is that possible? Seegoon (talk) 00:17, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Yep you can already do this. When viewing a page in huggle open the "view" menu and click on "Patrol page". This will then try to patrol the page. Or you can pres Ctrl+P. ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 09:24, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Lists
I've noticed that Huggle has a whitelist why not create a blacklist that keeps track of users and ips with multiple vandalism reports against them or have been blocked in the past. Flagging edits by these users or ips would make it easier to catch repeat offenders. Being blacklisted wouldn't have to be permanent either it could have an expiration. Huggle works great for me and its working much better than what I had been using to counter vandalism. -Vcelloho (talk) 08:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
- I suppose if we keep the whitelist clean then there is no need for a blacklist. ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 09:24, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Help
Can someone explain to me why Huggle works on the computer at my parents house, but not mine (it use to). Do I need to change the proxy settings or what to get it to work? CTJF83Talk 05:33, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Operating systems? --Closedmouth (talk) 06:08, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- XP on both CTJF83Talk 06:08, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Are you sure you have the ".NET Framework 2.0" on your computer? (if something like AWB works, then you do have it. otherwise check.) If you don't, there's a link to it on Wikipedia talk:Huggle/Feedback/Download. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 14:33, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- I verified I do have that. I don't understand why it use to work here, and now it doesn't. Any more help? CTJF83Talk 21:54, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Hm... what's the error message (if there is one)? Calvin 1998 (t·c) 03:37, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Just a generic "Huggle has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." It happens on all 3 versions. CTJF83Talk 06:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- No buttons that say "Show details" or anything like that? Hmm... Calvin 1998 (t·c) 23:28, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- Correct...I'm as perplexed as you are. Please help me fix it. I miss using Huggle! CTJF83Talk 00:05, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
- No buttons that say "Show details" or anything like that? Hmm... Calvin 1998 (t·c) 23:28, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- Just a generic "Huggle has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." It happens on all 3 versions. CTJF83Talk 06:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
- Hm... what's the error message (if there is one)? Calvin 1998 (t·c) 03:37, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- I verified I do have that. I don't understand why it use to work here, and now it doesn't. Any more help? CTJF83Talk 21:54, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Are you sure you have the ".NET Framework 2.0" on your computer? (if something like AWB works, then you do have it. otherwise check.) If you don't, there's a link to it on Wikipedia talk:Huggle/Feedback/Download. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 14:33, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- XP on both CTJF83Talk 06:08, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- At what point does the application stop working? -- Gurch (talk) 07:34, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
- I think it was around the time I switched to the newest version. I have tired the older version, and neither work. CTJF83Talk 23:15, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
- When you run it, does it get as far as displaying the login screen? If so, does it finish logging in before the problem occurs? -- Gurch (talk) 00:30, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- I can login but as it is, the green login bar goes up by 4, and then the error occurs. CTJF83Talk 00:34, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- Try deleting the local configuration files (by default, C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Huggle) -- Gurch (talk) 21:01, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- 7 and 8.1 don't work. 8.2 says "The remote name could not be resolved: en.wikipedia.org" CTJF83Talk 22:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- Then Huggle is unable to connect to the Internet. If your Web browser can access it, you are probably using a proxy, in which case you need to enter your proxy settings before it will work -- Gurch (talk) 04:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think it is. How would I check if I'm using a proxy, and how do I find/enter the proxy setting? CTJF83Talk 07:25, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- Then Huggle is unable to connect to the Internet. If your Web browser can access it, you are probably using a proxy, in which case you need to enter your proxy settings before it will work -- Gurch (talk) 04:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- 7 and 8.1 don't work. 8.2 says "The remote name could not be resolved: en.wikipedia.org" CTJF83Talk 22:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- Try deleting the local configuration files (by default, C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Huggle) -- Gurch (talk) 21:01, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- I can login but as it is, the green login bar goes up by 4, and then the error occurs. CTJF83Talk 00:34, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- When you run it, does it get as far as displaying the login screen? If so, does it finish logging in before the problem occurs? -- Gurch (talk) 00:30, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- I think it was around the time I switched to the newest version. I have tired the older version, and neither work. CTJF83Talk 23:15, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
- I would think it's a local issue rather than huggle bug, as I have it with Huggle and my own Java program (same error, namely, proxy issues, despite me not even using a proxy). It means you have a misconfigured proxy or a messed up proxy configuration. Or that you use a proxy and don't know it. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 19:14, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
*Frustrated Moan*
Sometimes, when I try to revert an edit, nothing happens. It takes a few seconds, and does not say that i have reverted anything. Maybe you could fix that. Thanks. Montgomery' 39 (talk) 22:44, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- Try looking through your contributions. Odds are you will see someone reverted the same time as you, and just barely beat you to the punch. Law shoot! 22:31, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- If the revision you are trying to revert to is identical to the latest revision, this will happen. In the next version I've added an explict message to this effect -- Gurch (talk) 07:32, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
- I'm seeing a lot of this new message in 0.8.3. It looks like the page is not advancing forward as a revert is made (as if the "Show new edits to the page as they are made" doesn't click quickly enough). Not sure if this is related to the "Slow response" thread below, but it happens a lot in 0.8.3. In previous versions, if someone beat me to the revert, the revert button would darken, followed by a click and the window would advance forward to show the reverted edit. Oddly enough, if the vandal makes a second vandalism edit, the page does seem to click forward. Just the large scale reverts that seem to take a while to click forward (possibly due to the large amount of text in the revert diff?). ArakunemTalk 22:16, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Quitting
Huggle keeps quitting for some reason. This has never done this until today; today is has quit at least 4 times in the last hour. Anyone else having troubles? Eric Wester (talk · contribs · email) 16:50, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
- Now I am unable to do use Huggle at all. It gives me an error message when I try to rollback an edit. Eric Wester (talk · contribs · email) 16:55, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
- What does the error message say? -- Gurch (talk) 17:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
- I restarted my computer and have not experienced the error again yet. I will let you know if it happens again. Eric Wester (talk · contribs · email) 17:36, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
- What does the error message say? -- Gurch (talk) 17:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Glitch
EventType : clr20r3 / P1 : huggle 0.8.2.exe / P2 : 0.8.2.0 / P3 : 48f9b1e9 / P4 : microsoft.visualbasic / P5 : 8.0.0.0 / P6 : 4333d6d8 / P7 : 35e / P8 : 36 / P9 : system.invalidcastexception
This happened right after I moved on to the next diff after making this edit. I am adding this to the bug tracker as we speak. — neuro(talk) 09:42, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Interesting problem
If you log into Huggle and then login with the same account on a normal web browser, then log out on the normal web browser, you can use huggle as an IP, see Special:Contributions/216.67.72.167. Icewedge (talk) 06:28, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- Indeed. Back in the day, this was impossible, as login sessions were completely independent; unfortunately, unified login has changed that, and logging out a unified account anywhere logs it out everywhere. When I ask how I'm supposed to go about detecting this, I get a load of out-of-date answers that assume I'm HTML-scraping the UI, rather than using the API. I thought I had fixed this in the development version a few days ago but managed to reproduce it again; seems MediaWiki isn't too bothered about the edit token it accepts for anonymous edits. I've had to resort to checking the length of the edit token (2 for anonymous edits, 34 for logged-in edits), but it does at least seem to solve the problem -- Gurch (talk) 07:22, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Reverting in sandbox
Huggle users need to start using Template:uw-sandbox or Huggle's own version for inappropriate edits in the sandboxes instead of the regular vandalism warnings. Clark89 (talk) 00:10, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- Umm... aren't the sandboxes all whitelisted in WP:Huggle/Config so they never show up in the "Filtered Changes" feed? Calvin 1998 (t·c) 00:57, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- They were going through the contributions page, using huggle as the revert tool. Clark89 (talk) 01:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- Also at times they don't realize which page they are on and revert acceptable edits in the sandbox as vandalism as if it was an article (warning as well), half the time they notice and fix their mistake. Huggle is used in the sandboxes a couple times a day. Clark89 (talk) 02:24, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- They were going through the contributions page, using huggle as the revert tool. Clark89 (talk) 01:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- IMHO, this should be automated (at least as an option), so Huggle would select the appropriate warnings in case of the sandbox reverts. Skarebo (talk) 02:16, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- Why do we even warn people for editing the sandbox? Why does it still have a header that you have to tell people not to remove when per-page headers can be displayed by MediaWiki? -- Gurch (talk) 15:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- Good point. Actually, I'd prefer Huggle to ignore sandboxes. And I have a feeling that in most of the cases when someone reverted “vandalism” in a sandbox they thought it was a mainspace… Skarebo (talk) 23:01, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- I thought it did ignore sandboxes and got fooled tonight because of the content. Is there a way to configure my own copy to do so? I couldn't find it in the documentation, but I may not know what to search for.--otherlleft (talk) 02:33, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- Good point. Actually, I'd prefer Huggle to ignore sandboxes. And I have a feeling that in most of the cases when someone reverted “vandalism” in a sandbox they thought it was a mainspace… Skarebo (talk) 23:01, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- Why do we even warn people for editing the sandbox? Why does it still have a header that you have to tell people not to remove when per-page headers can be displayed by MediaWiki? -- Gurch (talk) 15:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- Ignored pages were not being ignored properly. This is fixed in the next version -- Gurch (talk) 03:46, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
- I'm being more careful now, but I'm seeing a lot of warnings issued for sandbox usage. Take a look at Blackeyedfool12, for example. Granted, this new user's reactions to the warnings aren't exactly cheerful, but I'm sure this is not the only case. This is a serious problem and I recommend that if it can't be fixed quickly that some method of advising Rollbackers of the problem be implemented right away.--otherlleftNo, really, other way . . . 15:31, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Login Problem - please help before I go insane (too late)
This is damn frustrating. I've lurked all the previous threads to hunt for a solution, but it still eludes me. On starting Huggle (0.8.3) I enter my username and password and click login. So far so good. The progress bar moves a bit and then stops and Huggle returns this error:
The remote server returned an error (417) Expectation failed.
My expectations have also taken a pounding.
- 1. Yes, I added the line enable:true to my css.
- 2. Yes, my Zonealarm firewall is allowing Huggle out of it's cage.
- 3. Yes, I do have rollback.
- 4. Yes, I'm using Win 2K, which makes me a near-Luddite on Wiki
- 4. Yes, I have Net 2.0 sp1 freshly installed (and wasn't THAT fun - I had NET 2.0 already then tried upgrading to Net 2.0 sp1. This caused all sorts of install problems - now fixed).
- 5. Yes, the internet works, albeit slowly from here in the third world
- 6. Yes, my computer is turned on.
- 7. Yes, I've tried this on various days and times while standing on one leg and singing the Star Spangled Banner.
- 7. Yes, I've tried everydamnthing i can think of.
- 8. yes, i AM'm starting to lo000se it wwidniht this da,mmnd #@#$#%$%$%5 machinesds.d
<Cough>
I'm fresh out of ideas here. There has to be something obvious that I'm missing, but I'm stuffed if I can work out what it is - help please, before I go completely insane. Paxse (talk) 13:44, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
- How about previous versions of huggle? — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 20:55, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
- I did try 0.8.2 but haven't tried the earlier versions. Paxse (talk) 01:34, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
- Very odd. The '417' in the error message is an HTTP status code... 417 is a rather unusual one, and I'm not sure what could be causing it -- Gurch (talk) 22:34, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
- Google suggests that this may be caused by a poorly-configured proxy server; possibly a transparent one at your ISP's end. Not sure why it another happens or how to avoid it, though -- Gurch (talk) 22:38, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Gurch, thanks very much for taking pity on a frustrated would-be-Huggler (Hugglist? Wiki-hugger?). I see what you mean, it seem to be fairly common problem with transparent proxies. Are any of these links helpful? [1],[2] they seem to be people who have solved the same problem. This page has a very explicit fix [3]. I'd be very happy to be the guinea pig for a new Huggle that supports servers that don't support the "100 continue" expectation. Cheers, Paxse (talk) 01:34, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thing is, having run a trace on Huggle's activity, I can't see anywhere that 100 Continue is used. (Logging in to a non-unified account sends 302, otherwise there's nothing except 200, unless you count the occasional 500) -- Gurch (talk) 13:33, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
- Hmmm. Thank you very much for looking. I'm still fresh out of ideas. Looks like I'm going to have to be content to be un-huggled. Paxse (talk) 14:06, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
- think I've found how to fix this -- Gurch (talk) 21:22, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- Hmmm. Thank you very much for looking. I'm still fresh out of ideas. Looks like I'm going to have to be content to be un-huggled. Paxse (talk) 14:06, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thing is, having run a trace on Huggle's activity, I can't see anywhere that 100 Continue is used. (Logging in to a non-unified account sends 302, otherwise there's nothing except 200, unless you count the occasional 500) -- Gurch (talk) 13:33, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Gurch, thanks very much for taking pity on a frustrated would-be-Huggler (Hugglist? Wiki-hugger?). I see what you mean, it seem to be fairly common problem with transparent proxies. Are any of these links helpful? [1],[2] they seem to be people who have solved the same problem. This page has a very explicit fix [3]. I'd be very happy to be the guinea pig for a new Huggle that supports servers that don't support the "100 continue" expectation. Cheers, Paxse (talk) 01:34, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Ignore edits to WP:SAND?
Could you make Huggle ignore all edits to the sandbox (and, indeed, any other sandbox pages)? It Is Me Here t / c 15:24, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
- It does, the ignore feature just so happened to break (I think it's fixed in the latest SVN revision). Calvin 1998 (t·c) 05:31, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
- Right-o, so it will be working correctly again in 0.8.4? It Is Me Here t / c 09:15, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
- Perhaps. It depends on whether this fixes the problem or not. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 02:13, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Same Ptoblem as in version 7
I am facing the same problem as version 7. Whenever I click the blue arrow, I never go to the next page. Even though the "adress bar" lists the page title, I am still stuck on the page. Montgomery' 39 (talk) 22:58, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Errors while running other programs
I recently noticed that huggle does not seem to work on my computer while I am running other .NET programs. If I try to rollback while I have another program running, I get the message "Reverting page: couldn't grab element "editform", aborting, this could indicate failed respons from the server." Is this normal, and if so, is there something I could do to prevent it? Thanks! Firebat08 (talk) 05:34, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- What happens if you run two instances of Huggle at the same time? -- Gurch (talk) 05:51, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
AIV reporting
I have noticed that sometimes, even when a user has not been reported or blocked, huggle does not issue an AIV report. I have checked my preferences and reporting is enabled. I am adding this to the issue tracker.--Res2216firestar 17:54, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
- No need to do that. If they have been warned in the past minute or so, they wont be warned again. You can see this in the logs. 211.30.109.24 (talk) 07:29, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
- That's 10 seconds, I believe. Chamal talk 07:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
- This shouldn't apply to vandalism reports, however. The main reason for that delay is that VandalProof is badly designed and will frequently issue warning for reverts made by other users; the 10-second delay ensures that if a VandalProof user issues a warning for a revert made by a Huggle user, Huggle won't then add its own warning as well. With reports, there is no such issue -- Gurch (talk) 19:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah I've noticed this as well. I will notice that the user is at his/her's final warning. I will usually watch the feed to make sure there are not any mistakes. Over the past week or two I have noticed that the issue mentioned above has happened. It has not, however, happened a lot. Maybe 2-3 times in the past week. I have not tried to report the user manually through the user drop-down menu though.--♠Dspradau♠ ♠talk♠ ♠contribs♠ 00:17, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
0.8.3 Error
I noticed that when I do a reversion, the edit summary is incomplete, see:
17:16 21 nov 2008 (hist) (dif) Backyardigans (Revertidos los cambios de 201.230.127.39 a la última edición de) Transl:Reverted edits of 201.230.127.39 to the last version of
The second parameter is missing cause the correct edit summary is
17:16 21 nov 2008 (hist) (dif) Backyardigans (Revertidos los cambios de 201.230.127.39 a la última edición de **Dferg**)
** mine
Regards, Dferg, T ES 17:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- Previously reported in Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback/Archive 9#Summary bug (0.8.3 - pt.wiki). It happens on de.wikipedia too. It seems this happens only when "manual-revert-summary:" is used. Other projects should use version 0.8.2 while this is not fixed. Mosca (talk) 17:49, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
- Mosca, could you please leave me a note when the bug disapear on my es-wiki talk page, either in english or portuguese (I understand both)? Thank you. Dferg, T ES 11:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
- Probably I will not remember. If this is fixed, will be only in the next version 0.8.4. Mosca (talk) 18:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
- Mosca, could you please leave me a note when the bug disapear on my es-wiki talk page, either in english or portuguese (I understand both)? Thank you. Dferg, T ES 11:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
empty queue at de.wp (0.8.3)
When I connect huggle with de.wp the queues dont fill up. The bottom loglines say, that its connected to the IRC feed, but I'm not sure of that. On en.wp the queues fill, so I guess its not a local firewall problem. --Krawi talk 08:12, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- That's because de:Wikipedia:Huggle/Config doesn't have some configurations. I can solve that but german wikipedia (like spanish, portuguese and probably others) shouldn't use version 0.8.3 while one bug in summary is not fixed. See #Summary bug (0.8.3 - pt.wiki) and #0.8.3 Error. Mosca (talk) 18:54, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- BTW: My Huggle 0.8.2 which worked fine in en.wp always crashes in de.wp when trying to warn a user for the second time. Reporting users after final warning seems to cause the same. --Say Headcheese!-hexaChord2 21:41, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
0.8.3 problem
Although the version is definitely better in many ways, I'm consistently facing a problem. When I try to cancel any wrong edit while it is in process, the program stops responding. Sometimes this is solved by rushing to Task Manager, but couple of times I couldn't even do that and had to reboot the system. LeaveSleaves talk 17:22, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- Same here. Interestingly, the button was used to stop the rv on a good edit by LeaveSleaves :O Leujohn (talk) 07:06, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
- See Issue 142 for details. --AmaltheaTalk 05:14, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Vandalism-only accounts
Can Huggle use {{uw-voa3}} and {{uw-voa4}} for vandalism-only accounts? -- IRP ☎ 20:14, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
- I totally oppose the existence of these templates, let alone adding them to Huggle; if they are added to Huggle, I won't hesitate to disable rollback without warning for anyone misusing them. Quite aside from the fact that the potential for misuse is very high – while it's possible, Huggle is not a good tool for reviewing an account's entire contribution history and I suspect people will be way too trigger-happy with these – there's a spectacular assumption of bad faith implicit in the use of a template such as this. The reviewing admin at AIV is perfectly capable of judging whether the account is vandalism-only, and this adds no functionality whatsoever to Huggle as a tool. – iridescent 19:33, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
- I {{db-author}}ed the templates. -- IRP ☎ 00:12, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
My opinion on this is pretty much inline with Iridescent's. Admins can determine if an account is vandalism only or not. It could be bitey to good faith newcomers if you rollback them and slap a {{uw-voa3}} on their talk page; it's also a massive assumption of bad faith on the user that's putting it in anyways. The possibility of abuse, is just too high. RockManQReview me 00:41, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Tag for speedy deletion function for eswiki
Just wondering that if it's possible to activate the "speedy deletion tagging" function for the es:wiki version of Huggle, I really like it and it is very quick. macy 00:13, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- Does es.wikipedia have a speedy deletion policy? I can't find it -- Gurch (talk) 04:00, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Since I made that in portuguese wikipedia, I think I can help (although it can be a little tricky). Just give me some time. Mosca (talk) 09:46, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- Done Mosca (talk) 10:24, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- It can probably be made to work without creating all the extra templates for tagging -- e.g. to use
Destruir|1=Evidente vandalismo o falsedad
- instead of
Huggle/DestruirG1
- Also I don't know if they use the 'G1' style abbreviations on es.wikipedia but if not it might be a bit confusing to them -- Gurch (talk) 16:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
As I said, could be a little tricky to adapt. I did what I could although it's not the better solution. If you fix that, great. But may be Huggle has more urgent bugs. It seems es.wiki (like pt.wiki) don't use 'G1' style abbreviations. Fortunately their criteria are very similar to english criteria. Even if we don't understand codes like "G1" we understand speedy delete reasons. By the way, thank you very much for this fix in issue 95. That was annoying in other projects. Mosca (talk) 10:58, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
Keyboard shortcuts in 0.8.3
In huggle 0.8.2 I have set these custom keybord shortcuts:
NumPad0 - Next change (instead of default space)
NumPad1 - Revert and warn vandalism (Instead of default Q)
NumPad2 - Revert and warn spam (Instead of default Ctrl+Shift+S)
etc.
But in 0.8.3 I think this functionality is missing. I couldn't find a way to configure it to send {{uw-spam}} notice to the user when I'm reverting linkspam. Is there a way to tweak huggle to get this function in 0.8.3? --Unpopular Opinion (talk · contribs) 10:36, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Shortcuts don't work anymore
Apparently SHIFT + [X]
shortcuts don't work anymore in version 0.8.3. StaticGull Talk 16:35, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Summary bug (0.8.3 - pt.wiki)
Sometimes summary is not right like in this example. Doesn't show edit username target "LijeBot" (in this case).
- Revertidas edições por 200.180.170.184 para a última versão por (Huggle)
should be
- Revertidas edições por 200.180.170.184 para a última versão por LijeBot (Huggle)
This happens sometimes. Mosca (talk) 17:03, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
- Same on es.wikipedia [4] [5]. Mosca (talk) 11:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Some translations not shown (0.8.3 - pt.wiki)
main-tip-undo: Desfazer minhas ações recentes main-history: História
Don't see this translations. First one is ALT text for "Undo recent actions" button and second one is "History" button (ALT: "retrieve page history") right? Of course this is a low priority request. Mosca (talk) 19:46, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Watch this page
Good idea to have pages I prod automatically added to my watchlist; however, even though Huggle tells me it does that (by changing the "watch this page" icon), it really isn't doing any edit to my watchlist unless I manually click on the icon - twice. -- Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 02:09, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- Actually I think it does edit your watchlist automatically, it just doesn't get logged... Calvin 1998 (t·c) 04:48, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
- No, I can tell that it does not edit my watchlist. -- Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 12:26, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Huggle Error
Win32Exception: The system cannot find the file specified
at System.Diagnostics.Process.StartWithShellExecuteEx(ProcessStartInfo startInfo) at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start() at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start(ProcessStartInfo startInfo) at System.Diagnostics.Process.Start(String fileName) at Huggle.UpdateForm.UpdateDone(Output Result) at Huggle.Requests.Request.SendResult() at Huggle.Requests.UpdateRequest.Done() at Huggle.Misc.CallbackInvoke(Object TargetObject)
Thanks! Eric Wester (talk · contribs · email) 03:27, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Login form troubles again
[6]. Formatting issues? Calvin 1998 (t·c) 19:09, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Interesting Discovery (Also applies for 8.2)
If you have a restricted account on your computer, it is impossible to log in to a new version of Huggle unless you access Huggle with an admin account. (admin on your computer, not on wiki) After the first time, you can log in to Huggle with a restricted account. Is this meant to happen? Leujohn (talk) 03:59, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Reverting vandalism to previous vandalism
I constantly see edits being reverted via Huggle to previous versions of vandalism. The vast majority of times it is a revision of an anonymous edit to a previous anonymous edit of a different IP. Honestly I can't think of a good way around this, but maybe other editors can think of a way to at least force Huggle users to see not only the revision that they're reverting to, but perhaps just when an edit is reverting to another anonymous edit it shows you the changes that were previously made before the anonymous edit that's being reverted to? Or maybe some type of alert that says "are you sure you want to revert to another anonymous edit?" similar to the alert when you try to revert to a previous edit of the editor that you're currently reverting? Shirulashem (talk) 03:02, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- I think there's a feature on HUG (I haven't used it...if I have, I don't remember) that allows you to choose a specific revision you want to rv to. Usually when this kind of thing happens, I manually use TW to restore a specific revision, which usually works pretty well. ♫ IceUnshattered [ t ] 22:01, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- Right, but not enough people are doing it because this problem is so widespread. shirulashem (talk) 19:40, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
- There is such feature. Use right mouse button in a previous edit on that page (in history bar). I don't understand why people don't check first some previous edits before reverting. Mosca (talk) 18:57, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Requesting Page Protection
Every time I try to request page protection it crashes. Shirulashem (talk) 01:46, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- Does it give you an error message? ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 17:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Blanking Pages
A couple times in the past few days, Huggle has been blanking the pages that I've put CSDs on. I was about to put the latest example on, then my brain kicked in and told me the page was deleted already. So I guess I can't provide examples. But Huggle applies the speedy deletion template, and erases everything else on the page. Killiondude (talk) 08:19, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
- Huggle does that on purpose for attack pages for obvious reasons. --Closedmouth (talk) 08:40, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, that makes sense. I didn't see the connection. Thanks. Killiondude (talk) 22:55, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Freezes when I cancel an action
I'm running Huggle version 0.8.3, and whenever I try to cancel a pending action (pressing Escape or the cancel button on the top bar), Huggle freezes irrecoverably; I must use task manager to close the program and restart it to continue using. This happens every time I try to cancel an action. Not sure what is wrong, or if anyone else is having this problem.
For reference, I'm running Windows XP and, as stated above, am using version 0.8.3. Assistance or advice is much appreciated. Robert Skyhawk (Talk) 03:40, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
- Duplicate of #0.8.3 problem. --AmaltheaTalk 03:59, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Not blocking
Here's my problem; If I use huggle at home, and revert a level-4 warned user, it will prompt to block them. If I use my work pc, it doesn't prompt to block them at all, just adds a report to AIV. The only differences between environments is that at work I need to go through a proxy and they block IRC. At home, no proxy and I can use IRC. Is this the "Fixed admin functions not working" update in 0.8.4? Or something different? Thanks. --Kbdank71 15:41, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
- The Project config was changed (to allow block feature) and then reverted back. Adding the block feature restricts people to version 0.8.3; while some users prefer to use older versions of huggle due to problems with v0.8.3 (see threads above). Let's hope that 0.8.4 release will solve this thing:/ -Unpopular Opinion (talk · contribs) 20:46, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
- I made the same query about this problem some time ago. Iridescent was kind enough to fill me in on why its currently disabled at the moment.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 20:55, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
- Oh...guess Gurch had fixed it...I was assuming UO was referring to the earlier reason. Yes I guess sympathy must be exercised for those that would become Huggle-less O.O. Any version that's stable is always appreciated I'm sure.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 21:01, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
- I made the same query about this problem some time ago. Iridescent was kind enough to fill me in on why its currently disabled at the moment.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 20:55, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Memory Leak?
I used reverted/warned on an edit that I should not have. I immediately click on the undo recent actions button, at which point my computer virtually froze, and had massive hard disc activity. After a short while I checked the Windows Task Manager and saw that Huggle was claiming about 280M of memory, which was rapidly rising (faster than I think it should need to). I killed huggle, and restarted it and now it is only showing 58M of memory being used. I have just tried to recreated this on the huggle sandbox but cannot. Martin451 (talk) 00:47, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
- Please see my problem #3 above at #Jeff_G..27s_problems_with_v0.8.3. — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 01:40, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Blocking edits from certain pages from being shown
Is there a way to not show any edits done to certain pages? Sometime I accidentally revert edits done to WP:Sandbox. Thanks. Rtyq2 (talk) 19:58, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- There is an ignored pages section in the project config. Problem is that it broke. Suggestion: slow down and look at the page title before reverting. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 02:51, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
How do I make it so Huggle does not show changes to Wikipedia:Sandbox? --Elassint (talk) 17:54, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
- Queues > Manage all Queues > check "Ignore pages on the ignored list". Calvin 1998 (t·c) 18:27, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
- Could this be made the default setting please? Springnuts (talk) 22:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
- Gurch did just that, but that revision isn't in 0.8.3, so you'll have to wait until he releases the next version. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 03:45, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Change default browser?
Hello all! Is there a way to change the browser that is opened when I click "View this in external browser" on the toolbar? I would rather use Firefox over Internet Explorer. Sdkochman (talk) 13:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
- You will have to make Firefox the default browser of your system. In Firefox go to Tools>Options>Advanced>General tab and click "check now" where it says always check to see if Firefox is the default browser.. -Unpopular Opinion (talk · contribs) 14:58, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
- Oh. I thought I did that, but I am on a multi-user system so someone else probably changed it. Thanks! Sdkochman (talk) 21:00, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Sandbox
Would it be possible to have edits to the WP:SANDBOX removed from the queue? SpencerT♦C 00:50, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- Go to Queues > Manage Queues and check the option that ignores the pages on the ignore list. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 19:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, SpencerMerry Christmas! 23:10, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
- No problem. By the way, the option will be on by default in the next version. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 02:01, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, SpencerMerry Christmas! 23:10, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Replying about the Sandbox
Would it be possible to autosend a message when somebody deletes the sandbox header and you revert it, politely asking them not to do so? Inferno, Lord of Penguins 22:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- Why does the sandbox still have a header as part of the page? This is shown when users edit the page and is quite sufficent on its own -- 87.194.147.203 (talk) 01:19, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Error report
Hugle quit and gave me this message:
InvalidOperationException: Invoke or BeginInvoke cannot be called on a control until the window handle has been created. at System.Windows.Forms.Control.MarshaledInvoke(Control caller, Delegate method, Object[] args, Boolean synchronous) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.Invoke(Delegate method, Object[] args) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.Invoke(Delegate method) at Huggle.UserInfoForm.RefreshData() at Huggle.UserInfoForm.GotCount(RequestResult Result) at Huggle.Requests.Request.ThreadDone() at Huggle.Misc.CallbackInvoke(Object TargetObject)
I use Windows Vista and IE 37.--Ipatrol (talk) 17:43, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
- I got the same message (see above), but with XP Home and IE 7. Do you seriously use IE 3? If so, why? — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 18:38, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
- I'd probably assuming he means that he uses Firefox 3. Most things don't even work with IE 3 anymore. - NuclearWarfare contact meMy work 03:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- At a guess I would say that the problem was caused by a bug in the software and not a problem on the computer running it. Calvin 1998 (t·c) 19:11, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
WebException: The remote server returned an error: (403) Forbidden.
at System.Net.WebClient.DownloadFile(Uri address, String fileName)
at System.Net.WebClient.DownloadFile(String address, String fileName)
at Huggle.CaptchaForm.CaptchaForm_Load()
at Huggle.CaptchaForm._Lambda$__32(Object a0, EventArgs a1)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnLoad(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.OnCreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl(Boolean fIgnoreVisible)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.CreateControl()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WmShowWindow(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Form.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
This came up when I logged in. Shouldn't we report this? TopGearFreak 19:48, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- I HAVE THE ANSWER: Purge the Cache. Worked for me. TopGearFreak 19:55, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Problem
When trying to load Huggle 0.8.3, I am getting this error message "failed to load message files: no response." What shall I do? Shiva (Visnu) 20:13, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Where did keyboard shortcuts go?..
In ver. 0.8.3 many useful keyboard shortcuts just disappeared…
Huggle 0.8.2 had shortcuts for many choices of revert+warnings (deleted content, factual error, edit test, …).
Now I have to dig through menus, and since it's really painful on a notebook, I'm afraid Huggle is going to be simply unusable on Wibrain UMPC that I've just ordered… :-(
I'm going to stick with 0.8.2 for now. Skarebo (talk) 02:37, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Removal of keyboard shortcuts
v 0.7.12 had keyboard shortcuts (along the lines of Ctrl+shift+s for spam) for revert and warn with a specific warning (spam, blanking, tests and so on.) Why has this been removced? Can we have it back? Jonathan Hall (talk) 10:09, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Admin tools
Hi. When I use Huggle 0.8.3, admin buttons don't appear (the report button is there, instead). If I use Huggle 0.8.2, the block user and delete buttons appear there. ¿Is something wrong? --Racso (talk) 16:02, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- This is a known issue with 0.8.3. On the changes list it says it's fixed in the upcoming version, so I'd wait and see what happens. Until It Sleeps 20:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Support for Telugu wikipedia
Please add support for Telugu (te) wikipedia. Recently we are experiencing heavy vandalism --వైజాసత్య (talk) 03:43, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Done I went to the global config and added te.wikipedia.--Ipatrol (talk) 20:02, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Suggestion regarding the {{notenglish}} tag
When an article is tagged {{notenglish}}, would it be possible for Huggle to automatically generate an entry at WP:PNT, as suggested on the template? -- Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 15:31, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Bug
When I opened Huggle, I noticed it was unusually slow to the point wherethere were several reverts and warnings that did not execute because the "request timed out." Soon after, this bug appears: (Translation: Some of this is in chinese. The first phrase means "Call control top only possible after monitor control code constructed." The individual characters mean "at.") InvalidOperationException: 視窗控制代碼建立後才能呼叫控制項上的 Invoke 或 BeginInvoke。
於 System.Windows.Forms.Control.MarshaledInvoke(Control caller, Delegate method, Object[] args, Boolean synchronous) 於 System.Windows.Forms.Control.Invoke(Delegate method, Object[] args) 於 System.Windows.Forms.Control.Invoke(Delegate method) 於 Huggle.UserInfoForm.RefreshData() 於 Huggle.UserInfoForm.GotCount(RequestResult Result) 於 Huggle.Requests.Request.ThreadDone() 於 Huggle.Misc.CallbackInvoke(Object TargetObject)
- makes about as much sense in english as in chinese :( -- Gurch (talk) 12:40, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I get the same thing, only in English:
NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. at Huggle.Misc.FindString(String Source, String From, String To) at Huggle.Processing.ProcessRc(String Result) at Huggle.Requests.RcApiRequest.Done() at Huggle.Requests.Request.ThreadDone() at Huggle.Misc.CallbackInvoke(Object TargetObject)