Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/Enzyme inhibitor/archive1

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1. Boghog 45%
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Featured Article Save Award nominations

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FASA nomination Boghog

I nominate Boghog for a Featured article save award for improvements to Enzyme inhibitor during its FAR that allowed it to retain its Featured status. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:53, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Discussion Boghog

1. Support. Boghog is now responsible for more of the content of the article than its original author, TimVickers, and should proudly display the bronze star associated with this featured article in user space. Thanks !! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:55, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
2. Support. I didn't participate in the FAR, but looking at the article history and sampling some of BogHog's edits, it is clear that they performed much of the heavy lifting in improving the article and greatly improved the content and polish of the article. Nice work, Boghog! --{{u|Mark viking}} {Talk} 04:09, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
3. Support Hog Farm _Talk 04:11, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
4. Support Graham Beards (talk) 06:34, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
5. Support –♠Vamí_IV†♠ 07:23, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
6. Support - GamerPro64 02:33, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
7. Support - Great work on this - definintely a significant improvement and update. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)^talk 14:00, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
8. Support Jaredroach (talk) 23:38, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Samples of linking to and referring to an image

{{multiple image |image1=DIF reaction.png |image2=Inhibition schematic (irreversible).svg |caption1=<span id="DFP_reaction_diagram"></span>Reaction of the irreversible inhibitor [[diisopropylfluorophosphate]] (DFP) with a [[serine protease]] |caption2=Irreversible inhbitors bind to the enzyme's binding site then undergo a chemical reaction to form a covalent enzyme-inhibitor complex (EI*). Binding site in blue, inhinitor in green. |alt1=2D structural diagram depicting a serine amino acid residue from the active site of the enzyme forming a covalent bond with DFP by displacing the fluoride atom. |alt2= |total_width=400px }}

(that reacts with [[diisopropylfluorophosphate|DFP]], see reaction [[#DFP_reaction_diagram|diagram]]), and also [[cysteine]], [[threonine]], or [[tyrosine]].

Boghog are there other tricks that might be put here (for my future reference)? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:23, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Also, play with this concept, because the links will not work on Wikipedia mirrors ... this provides text that works on mirrors. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:35, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

HF

Starting a read-through now, likely won't get all the way through tonight. Hog Farm _Talk 04:21, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Hog Farm for your careful review! Highly appreciated. Boghog (talk) 17:45, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

• "or alternatively stabilize binding of substrate to the enzyme but lock the enzyme in a conformation which is no longer catalytically active." - does this need cited or is it an obvious statement? I really don't know

  Citation added. Boghog (talk) 17:45, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

• "catagrised" - is this a typo or a technical term

  Probably a typo. My suggestion is that Boghog should copy the article in to a word processor and check throughout, as I have found quite a bit of similar.

  Hopefully all typos have been fixed in these and these edits. Boghog (talk) 17:45, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

• "(see for example the "methotrexate vs folate" figure)" - not sure this is super helpful to the reader. First, they have to hunt for the image much further down the article, and then it's not clear which is the inhibitor and which is the substrate

  This is the method I have been suggesting. We have to not only name it, but say where in the article it is (for Wikipedia mirrors), and provide a link (for Wikipedia readers). There are images and figures referred to throughout the article; I keep trying to explain that they have to work both on Wikipedia and on Wikipedia mirrors. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:22, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

  Separately, versus should be spelled out (same for e.g. and i.e.) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:23, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

  Spelled out versus, however WP:MOSABBR advises that e.g. and i.e. should not be. Boghog (talk) 08:56, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

• Does the first paragraph of Mixed need more citations? I truly cannot tell what are obvious statements and what aren't

  It should be citeable. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:16, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

  Additional citations have been added to the first paragraph of the Mixed section. Also this paragraph has been partially rewritten. Boghog (talk) 08:33, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Ready for quantitative description, this is slow going because I'm a dumb redneck who's having to read most of this multiple times. Hog Farm _Talk 04:53, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

You're doing better than I did :) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:13, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

• "The true value of Ki can be obtained through more complex analysis of the on (kon) and off (koff) rate constants for inhibitor association with kinetics similar to irreversible inhibition." - with claims such as "more complex" and "similar to", it may be best to provide a citation here

  Added cite in this edit. Boghog (talk) 09:14, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

• "The structure of ritonavir, a protease inhibitor based on a peptide and containing three peptide bonds, as shown in the competitive inhibitor examples figure." - something has gone wrong here (should the as be is)?

  Fixed in this edit. Boghog (talk) 17:45, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

• "Other examples of these substrate mimics are the protease inhibitors, a successful class of antiretroviral drugs used to treat HIV/AIDS" - @SandyGeorgia: - Is a source about old enough to drive problematic here from a MEDRS perspective? Hog Farm _Talk 23:37, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

  For a featured article, we should be able to do better than a 2006 source to say that protease inhibitors are used to treat HIV/AIDS, and what is meant by "successful"? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:10, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

  Added more up-to-date reference in this edit. Clarified "sucessful" in this edit. Boghog (talk) 17:45, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

• "This is usually done using a MALDI-TOF mass spectrometer" - recommend a citation for a claim that something is usually done in a specific way

  Added in this edit. Boghog (talk) 19:30, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

• There's a large whitespace above the applications section on my laptop - is this a screen size product or a universal issue?

  Check now; I don't see why that "clear" was needed. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:14, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Ready for the applications, still slow going. Hog Farm _Talk 23:37, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

• "Some of these natural inhibitors, despite their toxic attributes, are valuable for therapeutic uses at lower doses" - what looks like a solid academic journal, but I'm not sure we should be citing information about the therapeutic effects of small doses of toxins to a fairly dated organic chemistry source per MEDRS

  Added MEDRS compliant source in this edit. Boghog (talk) 17:45, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

• "As of 2019, an estimated 29% of approved drugs are enzyme inhibitors" - can it be quoted where this is in the source? I have been having trouble finding this, and the linked paper doesn't seem to be about enzyme inhibitors?

  Opps! I accidentally inserted the wrong reference. Thanks for catching that. Fixed in this edit. Boghog (talk) 18:49, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

I think that's about it from me. Hog Farm _Talk 04:42, 19 July 2022 (UTC)