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  • Thanks for your time and effort given here. I will try to address your comments and have rewritten the bulk of the relevant section. Chesdovi (talk) 01:20, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Biased wording: "The planners and architects involved in developing the area were all secular. They stressed the nationalist basis of the project and rejected the traditional religious character of the area. When “reconstruction” became the official religious and right-wing position, it became unacceptable to them."
    • Am not sure where the bias lies here. Secular is used as opposed to religious. In this case, their outlook was nationalist. Chesdovi (talk) 01:20, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • "From the 13th century, the site where the Hurva Synagogue stands today has been a courtyard and synagogue for the Ashkenazi community of Jerusalem."
    • "The area is mentioned by Obadiah ben Abraham in 1488 who mentions a large courtyard containing many houses for exclusive use of the Ashkenasim, adjacent to a "synagogue built on pillars," referring to the Ramban Synagogue"
    • "The sudden arrival of the large group put pressure on the community’s resources and although they were left leaderless when he-Hasid died a few days later, they persisted to establish themselves in the city."
    • "The group's aspirations could only be realised at great expense."
    • "One of them, Rabbi Gedaliah of Siemiatycze, wrote of how they encountered difficulties with the Ottoman authorities who had to be bribed to enable them to proceed with the construction of new buildings and dwellings."
    • "They wanted to rebuild the synagogue which had been located in the courtyard next to the Ramban Synagogue on a larger scale than the old one, but the Turkish authorities forbade it."
    • "In order for them to receive permission, further bribes were made to the pashas. In addition, while construction was taking place, the pasha had to be paid 1,500 lion thalers over three years."
    • "In order for them to receive permission, further bribes were made to the pashas. In addition, while construction was taking place, the pasha had to be paid 1,500 lion thalers over three years. Then, since the building had been built higher than the old one without permission of the sultan, another pasha wished to halt the building. To satisfy him, another 500 lion thalers was handed over.[9] Finally, a new pasha from Constantinople arrived who also had to be appeased with 500 lion thalers."
    • "Pressure and threats from the creditors led to a messenger being sent to Europe to solicit funds for repayment of the loan.[10] However, twenty years later, the debt still had not been repaid.[11]"
      • What happened to the messenger? Did they get any money? Were they not making money off the synagogue?
      • Sources to hand do not give details of this. I doubt any money was generated from the synagogue. Chesdovi (talk) 01:20, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • "The courtyard was converted into shops and the synagogue lay desolate and descended into ruin. It thus became known as the "Ruin of Rabbi Judah the Pious"."
  • This was only the first section; you need someone to look through the entire article. Kind regards, —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 19:18, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • "Englishman named Sir Charles Clore took the initiative and agreed to fund the project, providing it could be completed in a specified number of years, (his wish was to see the project completed before his death)."