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2008-10-13

Experimental request for adminship ends in failure

In response to continued discussion over the format of requests for adminship, Ironholds submitted his fourth RfA under a new format, inviting the community to ask questions prior to the RfA's voting period, rather than just during it. Because of the RfA's unique nature, a large number of questions were asked during and after the question-and-answer period. The RfA was withdrawn with just over 50% support, as Ironholds had previously promised to withdraw the RfA if it seemed unlikely to garner consensus.

The idea of splitting questions from voting has been suggested before, but received new attention after Kww suggested such a move on the RfA talk page. The perceived benefit of such a move was that such a format would allow candidates to answer all concerns before voting begins, while under the current format, Kww argued, early voters "set the tone of the whole RFA". With a question-and-answer period before voting, it was believed, the candidate might be able to satisfy those early voters, avoiding a quick cascade of opposition.

The format, as presented by Ironholds, included a four-day question-and-answer period, and a four-day voting period. He opened the RfA up for questions on October 7, and within five hours, 18 questions had been asked of him. By the end of the question-and-answer period on October 11, that number had doubled, and when the RfA was closed, it had reached 48 questions in all.

During the voting period, support and opposition was roughly equal. Particularly damning was a comment in opposition by Acalamari, who brought up concerns about incivility, some of which had not been addressed during the question-and-answer period. Nearly all of the users opposing Ironholds' adminship cited those concerns.

After about two-and-a-half days of voting, Ironholds withdrew the RfA on October 13. The withdrawal reflects an answer he had given to Question 27 on the RfA, where he said that he would withdraw if it seemed there would not be consensus for promotion.

Previous attempts to reform RfA through "trial RfAs" have been largely unsuccessful. In April 2007, the vote tallies were briefly removed from RfAs, and two separate RfA formats were introduced, one modeled after the format of deletion debates, and the other modeled after the format of requests for comments (see archived story). The former was unsuccessful due to concerns about inactivity, while in the latter case, the candidate had not received much opposition, but the RfA was declared unsuccessful by bureaucrat Rdsmith4. He noted that while the candidate might have had consensus, the process did not; indeed, the most supported view within the RfC-styled request was "This method of RFA is so confusing that I am unable to participate", which received the support of 42 users.

After his withdrawal, the Signpost asked Ironholds a few questions about his RfA.

What made you decide to have an experimental RfA?

Well, the general consensus is that many people think RfA is broken, but nobody can agree on what should be done to fix it. The discussion comes around regularly, and this one suggestion caught my eye as quite an interesting idea. I'd been planning on rerunning again anyway (I'd received several nom offers) and this combined with the chance to actually do something to change RfA rather than debate as to the pro's and con's of doing something made it seem an opportune time. My thinking was that even if it failed it would be useful, adding something to the "shit we've tried before" list for when the debate comes around again (which it most assuredly will).

Were you surprised at all to see quite so many questions raised?

Yes, especially since the idea at the RfA talkpage was to have the questions user-specific rather than generalised copy-and-paste ones and hypothetical policy scenarios. Large numbers of questions wasn't an issue for me, but I can see it putting off other people.

Do you feel that, if you had ran a normal RfA rather than an experiment, you would have passed - or at least done better than you did?

Not really, to be honest. Most of the opposes were based on Acalamari's oppose and the diffs that went along with it, an oppose posted in the traditional RfA format rather than in the new way. The oppose and reaction to it would've been the same in the old format as he posted it in the new.

Do you feel this new system of RfA would catch on?

Not really, for two reasons: Firstly, there's too much history behind the old one that makes dislodging it hideously difficult at best. Second, the issue with RfA reform is that those who want to reform don't agree how to do so; the new system would be opposed by not only "RfA is fine" people but also people who want to reform RfA but don't agree on how we're doing it. We are, however, planning on running a pair of additional RfA's to further streamline it all.

Would you ever run for adminship again? If so, what preparation would you undergo beforehand, and would you use the "traditional" layout of RfA (assuming it is still widely used)?

I honestly don't know if I ever will. The tools would be exceptionally useful in several areas I work in, but the one I really love (writing articles) doesn't at require the tools in any way. I have to weigh up whether gaining the tools is worth the dramah of the RfA and having less time to dedicate to things I currently do. Should I ever run again, however, I'd most likely use the traditional system; it's hard enough to pass already without pissing people off with crazy ideas of 'progress'.



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2008-10-13

News and notes

Two new developers hired

This week, Wikimedia Chief Technical Officer Brion Vibber announced the hiring of two new developers: Trevor Parscal and Ariel Glenn. Parscal will focus primarily on MediaWiki development and other scripting, while Glenn will handle MediaWiki and extension development, as well as general IT support for the San Francisco office.

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2008-10-13

Dispatches: The latest on featured articles

Featured articles (FA) show off our best work to the world on the main page and serve as a powerful model for all of Wikipedia's articles. The featured article candidate process (FAC) is vital to setting and maintaining our standards of verification, writing and formatting. To complement the FA nominations/archiving process, the FA review process (FAR) enables the review and updating of articles that already have the bronze star. While the number of FAs grows at an average rate of 50 articles a month, a relatively small body of editors provides most of the successful candidates, and even fewer editors shoulder most of the burden of reviewing candidates at FAC and FAR. A successful promotion requires the input of about 12 editors, so nominators might consider re-paying the process by themselves reviewing a dozen or so candidates. More reviewers are always welcome!

Promotions and demotions

, Banner year for Featured articles
A graph of the total number of featured articles on the English (green) and German (blue) Wikipedias

About one in every 1,130 Wikipedia articles is featured; the ratio of FAs to all Wiki articles has been steadily climbing since February 2007.

During the first nine months of 2008, promotions of FAs have been at about the same rate as for 2007, while demotions at FAR have declined slightly relative to 2007.

During the past two years, average FA promotions were 63 a month; 2008 promotions through September are 64 a month, compared with an average of 42 three years ago.

After inline citation requirements were added in December 2005, demotions peaked at 30 during November 2006. Demotions over the past two years have averaged 16 a month, while the past year was slightly lower at 13 per month.

Combining promotions and demotions yields an average growth in FAs of 47 a month over the past two years, and 51 a month over the past year; the increase is due to the lower rate of demotions.

Nominators

Through August 18, the top 10 FA producers of 2008, with eight or more FAs for the year, were (alphabetically):[1]

Amazingly, these 10 editors accounted for one in five of FAs promoted in 2008 through August, at 105 of the 489 promotions.

Categories

FAs as of September 16, 2008 Count % chg since
Feb. 23
Art, architecture and archaeology 72 10.8%
Awards, decorations and vexillology 26 8.3%
Biology 155 20.1%
Business, economics and finance 19 18.8%
Chemistry and mineralogy 31 6.9%
Computing 17 0.0%
Culture and society 48 20.0%
Education 34 13.3%
Engineering and technology 37 5.7%
Food and drink 11 0.0%
Geography and places 158 6.8%
Geology, geophysics and meteorology 90 28.6%
Health and medicine 36 12.5%
History 154 5.5%
Language and linguistics 15 -11.8%
Law 34 17.2%
Literature and theatre 134 24.1%
Mathematics 14 7.7%
Media 171 7.6%
Music 182 19.0%
Philosophy and psychology 13 8.3%
Physics and astronomy 82 22.4%
Politics and government 67 8.1%
Religion, mysticism and mythology 44 22.2%
Royalty, nobility and heraldry 90 20.0%
Sport and recreation 162 36.1%
Transport 74 57.5%
Video gaming 96 33.3%
Warfare 173 19.3%

As of September 16, 2008,[2] the largest featured article categories had at least 150 entries.

  1. Music
  2. Warfare
  3. Media
  4. Sport and recreation
  5. Geography and places
  6. Biology
  7. History

The smallest categories had fewer than 20 entries.

  1. Food and drink
  2. Philosophy
  3. Mathematics
  4. Language and linguistics
  5. Computing
  6. Business, economics and finance

Relative to categories tallied in the February 25 Dispatch, the fastest growing categories are: Transport; Sport and recreation; Video gaming; Geology, geophysics and meteorology; Literature and theatre; Physics and astronomy; and Religion, mysticism and mythology. Three categories had no growth or a net decrease due to demotions: Language and linguistics; Computing; and Food and drink.

Reviewers

At FAR, great saves by a core group of editors contributed to a record-breaking month, with 17 articles retaining Featured article status during September.

At FAC, reviews have become more specialized, with individual editors tackling specific areas of the FA criteria. Several reviewers have developed expertise in reviewing images (see Reviewing free images and Reviewing non-free images), others in checking sources on every FAC for compliance with the Reliable sources guideline (see Reliable sources in content review processes), while others focus on Manual of style or prose and copyedit issues (see Reviewers achieving excellence).

FAC reviewer awards (see Feb stats, April stats and May stats) have gone to consistent productive reviewers: Awadewit, BuddingJournalist, Dweller, Ealdgyth, Elcobbola, Epbr123, GrahamColm, Indopug, Jbmurray, Juliancolton, Karanacs, Laser brain, Maralia, Moni3, Peanut4, Roger Davies, The Rambling Man, Tony1, Yllosubmarine and Yomangan.

Dedicated FAC and FAR volunteers work to assure that every article nominated receives a thorough review. Without them, FA standards would decline and the FAC and FAR pages would be likely to develop a large backlog as nominators wait for review. It is often thankless work: nominators, please be kind to the reviewers, and if you get a chance to lend a hand, please review some articles as well—we want your expertise too!

Article size

Readable prose size of Good articles (green) and Featured articles (blue)
Readable prose size of Good articles (green) and Featured articles (blue)

As of October 1, 2008,[3] the average "readable prose" size on 2,253 Featured articles was 25KB.

  • 14 articles were larger than 65KB (roughly 10,000 words); 97 were larger than 51KB.
  • 23 articles were smaller than 8KB (about 1,250 words); 100 were smaller than 10KB.

Average size at 25KB has not changed relative to a year ago for 1,721 featured articles. At that time:

  • 9 articles were larger than 65KB; 46 articles were larger than 51 KB
  • 16 were smaller than 8KB; 71 were smaller than 10KB.

Hence, average "readable prose size" has not changed, while the number of FAs of both the larger and smaller size-ranges has increased. (Several of the largest FAs have grown since passing FAC).

At around at least the average size of a FA (25KB), the number of Good articles (GA)s and FAs are roughly the same; below the average FA size, there are many more GAs.

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2008-10-13

Features and admins

Administrators

Seven users were granted admin status via the Requests for Adminship process this week: Thingg (nom), Ameliorate! (nom), Lazulilasher (nom), Xymmax (nom), Ale jrb (nom), Jac16888 (nom), and JPG-GR (nom).

Bots

Eight bots or bot tasks were approved to begin operating this week: MPUploadBot (task request), STBot (task request), ArticleAlertbot (task request), Nomenclaturebrowser (task request), TinucherianBot II (task request), OKBot (task request), MifterBot I (task request), and AnomieBOT (task request).

MPUploadBot is an administrative bot that continuously searches for images included on the Main Page, and if the images are on Wikimedia Commons and unprotected, the bot uploads a copy of the image locally, and protects it for the duration of its usage on the Main Page. After it is removed from the main page, the bot deletes the local copy.

Fourteen articles were promoted to featured status this week: Crush (video game) (nom), Congregation Beth Elohim (nom), Operation Tractable (nom), PNC Park (nom), Problem of Apollonius (nom), Richard II of England (nom), TAM (tank) (nom), Tokyo Mew Mew (nom), USS Nevada (BB-36) (nom), StarCraft: Ghost (nom), Panic of 1907 (nom), Khalid al-Mihdhar (nom), Antbird (nom), and Volcanism on Io (nom).

Eighteen lists were promoted to featured status this week: List of awards and nominations received by Blink-182 (nom), List of awards and nominations received by Justice (nom), List of universities in British Columbia (nom), Arizona Diamondbacks seasons (nom), Alabama Crimson Tide football seasons (nom), List of awards and nominations received by The White Stripes (nom), 2008 Summer Olympics medal table (nom), List of awards and nominations received by Green Day (nom), Chicago Bulls seasons (nom), List of Bleach episodes (season 5) (nom), The O.C. (season 3) (nom), List of Bleach episodes (season 8) (nom), Timeline of the 2006 Pacific hurricane season (nom), List of universities in Ontario (nom), List of anthems by country (nom), List of Prime Ministers of Sri Lanka (nom), List of UEFA club competition winners (nom), and List of New Zealand Land Wars Victoria Cross recipients (nom).

With the eighteen lists promoted this week, the number of featured lists has exceeded 1,000; as of press time, there are 1,006 featured lists.

One topic was promoted to featured status this week: Hurricane Dean (nom).

No portals were promoted to featured status this week.

The following featured articles were displayed on the Main Page this week as Today's featured article: Midtown Madness, Niagara Falls Suspension Bridge, Massospondylus, Akhtar Hameed Khan, Cleveland Street scandal, Grass Fight, and Trafford.

Four articles were delisted over the last week: The West Wing (nom), Battle of the Bulge (nom), 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake (nom), and Constitution of May 3, 1791 (nom).

No lists or topics were delisted this week.

The following featured pictures were displayed last week on the Main Page as picture of the day: Crepuscular rays, Dungeness crab, Arches National Park, Geocentric model of the universe, Tristan und Isolde, Charles Griffin, and Culex mosquitoes.

Five sounds were featured this week:


Flag song(nom)
Morgenlich leuchtend im rosigen Schein(nom)
Lillian Russell - Come Down Ma Evenin' Star(nom)
Shine On, Harvest Moon(nom)
Pleurez, pleurez, mes yeux(nom)

One additional sound had been promoted last week, but was accidentally left out of the list:

O soave fanciulla(nom)

No featured pictures were demoted this week.

Eleven pictures were promoted to featured status this week and are shown below.



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2008-10-13

Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News

This is a summary of recent technology and site configuration changes that affect the English Wikipedia. Note that not all changes described here are necessarily live as of press time; the English Wikipedia is currently running version 1.44.0-wmf.2 (8fd6c9c), and changes to the software with a version number higher than that will not yet be active. Configuration changes and changes to interface messages, however, become active immediately.

Fixed bugs

  • <ref/> tags that refer to previous references can now be created with {{#tag:}}. (r41669, bug 15770)
  • #iferror: has been improved to catch more sorts of errors. (r41881, bug 15730)
  • When a template is removed from a cascade-protected page and the template transcluded a category onto that page, the category is now removed from the page. (r41923, bug 15846)
  • The special-pages dropdown is now in the correct place on the Nostalgia skin. (r41940, bug 15928)
  • A page's content is no longer silently overwritten if a user has an edit conflict with another user, then an edit conflict with themself when they try to fix it (which could, for instance, happen due to clicking on the 'back' button during the save). (r42034, bug 15991)
  • A user no longer overwrites the entire page when trying to edit a section and clicking on 'save' before the edit page is fully loaded. (r42037, bug 1181)
  • A large number of SVG-related bugs were fixed by the upgrade of the SVG-rendering code used on the MediaWiki servers; more fonts are now available for SVG as well.

New features

Ongoing news

  • Internationalisation has been continuing as normal; help is always appreciated! See mw:Localisation statistics for how complete the translations of languages you know are, and post any updates to bugzilla or use Betawiki.



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2008-10-13

The Report on Lengthy Litigation

The Arbitration Committee opened one case this week, bringing the number of cases currently open to four.

New case

Evidence phase

  • Piotrus 2: A second case involving alleged edit warring and other misconduct by Piotrus and other editors. Piotrus denies the allegations against him, and has suggested that the case may be a deliberate attempt to drive him from the site.

Voting phase

  • SlimVirgin-Lar: A case brought by Thatcher, asking the committee to review the use of checkuser by Lar, in the light of comments by SlimVirgin (here, inter alia), alleging that he misused the tool. A finding of fact with the support of six arbitrators find that Lar's conduct "fell within the acceptable range of CheckUser discretion", and remedies reminding users to bring similar issues to appropriate dispute resolution processes rather than "public invective", and reminding CheckUser operators to abide strictly to the Wikimedia Foundation's privacy policy, have the support of five arbitrators, with none opposing.

Motion to close

  • Sarah Palin protection wheel war: A case involving allegations of wheel-warring on the Sarah Palin article, over a dispute as to the merits of page protection being applied in respect of it. Remedies instructing the parties to follow the principles adopted in the case, admonishing Jossi and MZMcBride for their use of administrative tools in the dispute, and urging the community to continue discussions regarding the improvement of the biographies of living persons policy, have the support of seven to eight arbitrators. Remedies restricting Jossi and MZMcBride from unprotecting or reducing the edit-protection status of a biography of a living person for 90 days have the support of five arbitrators, with two abstaining (meaning that the remedies have a majority). A motion to close is active on the case, currently supported by four and opposed by FloNight; the case is unlikely to close until voting has completed on a few points.



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